See below for a list of likely locations to have new missions announced in the near future. The Church has already announced two new missions to be created in 2022 (Hawaii Laie and Rwanda Kigali). Typically, the Church has made a single announcement for new missions to be created for the year. It is unclear whether there may be additional missions announced for 2022. Each prospective new mission is also provided with the approximately population and number of stakes and districts the mission would likely service.
AFRICA
- Cote d'Ivoire Daloa (9.4 million, 1 stake, 9 districts)
- Malawi Lilongwe (18.5 million, 2 districts)
- Nigeria Aba (3-4 million, 6 stakes)
- Nigeria Warri (5.7 million, 3 stakes, 4 districts)
- Sierra Leone Bo (3.0 million, four stakes)
- Togo Lome (7.7 million, two stakes)
ASIA
- Philippines Ormoc (~ 2 million, 3 stakes, 4 districts)
- Philippines Palawan/Mindoro (2.7 million, 1 stake, 4 districts)
- Philippines Tuguegarao (1.7 million, 3 stakes, 2 districts)
- Thailand Ubon (22.0 million, 1 stake, 1 district)
LATIN AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN
- Brazil Manaus (second mission) (3-4 million, ~6 stakes)
- Brazil Recife (second mission) (~5 million, ~6 stakes)
- Brazil São Luís (~7 million, 2 stakes)
- Brazil São Paulo (sixth mission) (4-5 million, ~7 stakes)
- Brazil Sorocaba (2-4 million, 5 stakes, 2 districts)
- Cuba Havana (11 million, 1 district)
OCEANIA
- Australia Brisbane (second mission) (~2.6 million, ~6 stakes)
- Australia Sydney (reinstate second mission) (~4 million, ~6 stakes)
- French Polynesia (second mission) (~150,000, ~5 stakes)
- Samoa (second mission) (~100,000, ~12 stakes)
- Solomon Islands Honiara (691,000, 1 district)
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How would Cuba work? I served in Miami until 2010 and was under the impression there are (or at least were) intense political barriers to proselytizing in the country.
I think we could send missionaries to Cuba from other Latin American countries or countries that have diplomatic relations with Cuba. I understand that there are fewer barriers than in the past. It does not appear to be a sensitive country as the district and branches are publicly advertise/posted unlike some countries such as the local (not expatriate) branches in China.
When the tyrannical and fascist government falls in Brazil (and it will) and a more democratic cabinet defending pan-american interlocution is elected, brazilian missionaries could be candidates to serve in Cuba, as well as from other strong Latin American countries like Colombia, Argentina or Peru
Groundbreaking for the Bacolod Philippines temple yesterday:
https://news-ph.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/groundbreaking-held-for-the-bacolod-philippines-temple
There have in the past been missions that existed with low missionary numbers and severe restrictions on actions by missionaries. That would be the case in Cuba, but it might be doable.
However the more recent trend seems to be to open countries from missions elsewhere and then wait until there is some development before creating a separate mission.
I am guessing a mission president in Mexico or maybe the Dominican Republic could be assigned yo oversee Cuba. It would probably best to be a non-American. There us currently at least one Dominican mission president in the Dominican Republic.
My father served part of his mission in sorocaba.
My impression was the Hawai'i Lai'e Mission was about to open since it is basically a visitor's venter mission and visitors center leaders start about January. The Rwanda Kigali mission is not opening until July.
It is not yet clear to ne what the exact boundaries of the Rwanda Kigali mission will be.
A second mission was already created in Recife in 2020 (Recife South).
Not to distract from the current interchange of ideas, but Matt, do you know what the exact date is that the "Kossoh Town Sierra Leone District" was reorganized as the "Kossoh Town Sierra Leone Stake"? I know the date it was updated on the Church Maps website from the fullerconsideration.com/units.php site. But unclear which sunday the change actually took place.
Christopher Duerig, the Kossoh Town District was upgraded to a Stake on 12/05/2021.
Rexburg West Stake was created today officially:
Burton 2nd
Burton 4th
Hibbard 1st
Oakbrook
Rexburg 13th
Willowbrook
Summerfield 1st
Summerfield 2nd
Every regular stake in the Rexburg area was affect in someway. There are now 6 regular stakes in the immediate Rexburg area: all but one have at least 8 wards.
Thank you, Nephi. I suspected that was the day. But I didn't see it posted here on Matt's list of newly organized Stakes. And it could have been a case of 2 or more weeks ago to report it to the Location Directory to update. Similar to what happened with the Huambo Angola District was organized on 11/21, but didn't appear on the Map until almost 3 weeks later on 12/10.
Also the Mesa Arizona temple has been re-dedicated:
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-oaks-rededicates-mesa-arizona-temple
There was some commentary in an earlier thread about temples most likely to have a groundbreaking. I believe Jim Anderson mentioned that Lindon was anticipated to have a start in April or May. Based on information I received a lirrle bit ago, a similar window applies to the Belo Horizonte Brazil Temple. It's also worth noting that with approvals for the Elko Nevada and Farmington New Mexico Temples being as far along as they are, they could be among the first temples to have groundbreakings this year, and that spring in the United States would be a prime window for each of the 7 other current US temples to have groundbreakings. So that would be 10 already by May or June of next year, without even accounting for the 10 other temples outside the US for which at least some preliminary information has been shared. So 2022 will likely see double-digit groundbreakings again.
Something else just occurred ro me: The Church conducted 21 groundbreakings last year, with 20 new temples announed in April, and a 21st announced in May of this year. In 2021, ground was broken for 12 temples, and 13 new temples were announced in October General Conference. So if the Church can schedule groundbreakings for 10 or more temples in the first 3 months of next year, another double-digit number of temples could easily be announced next April.
What's the average number of Wards in the Rexburg YSA wards and married student wards? Are any of them close to dividing?
Interesting predictions
Saw on Church Newsroom that 0 temples are paused now, although no update was given for Sydney and Suva temples, that must mean that these temples have resumed operations.
Phase Totals as of Dec 14:
Phase 1: 2
Phase 2: 0
Phase 2B: 4
Phase 3: 155
Phase 4: 0
Paused: 0
Closed: 10 (including Rio)
Temples likely to close for renovation in the coming years:
Logan Utah
Los Angeles California
Seattle Washington
Manila Philippines
Taipei Taiwan
Guatemala City Guatemala
Lima Peru
Belo Horizonte Brazil
Saw a display in the Clyde building at BYU where some engineering students came up with the concept drawings for the baptistry window in the Seattle Temple, said then that it was to be part of an upcoming renovation but I do not know if they will ever use that student work in the planning.
Logan has had a renovation, they completely gutted the interior so the renovation this time may be to restore at lest some of the pioneer era things that were lost in 1975.
That will be the last of the Pioneer era temples to be renovated, it will be announced at a future date.
Belo Horizonte? Really?
Daniel, sorry, I meant Porto Alegre.
Must mean Sao Paolo.
Porto Alegre is a Hinckley era small temple, they expanded a parking lot a couple years ago.
It is a small temple serving 26 stakes and 6 districts, which would benefit from increasing its size to allow for more capacity.
Correction: Porto Alegre Brazil
Ok! I wouldn't miss the chance to play with you
I believe there is more chance of building other temples in this region than expanding Porto Alegre. Santa Maria, Passo Fundo, Uruguaiana, Rivera, Tacuarembó, and even Posadas can be options for this vacuum. A little further north, there is also demand in the State of Paraná, and Londrina or Foz do Iguaçu/Ciudad del Leste are options.
Confirmed on Classic Maps, the new "Rexburg Idaho West Stake - 2184389".
https://classic.churchofjesuschrist.org/maps/#ll=43.816501,-111.813414&z=12&m=google.hybrid&layers=stakecenter&find=stake:2184389
I wonder when the first temples will resume operation in Phase 4. There is obviously a traffic regulation effect of the appointments, but at least in Indianapolis it all feels pretty normal. I assume in a lot of the moderately-busy temples it would be similar.
I personally think it will be a while. While it isn't reflected in the current system, temples have been expanding how many people they service. I remember at the beginning of September the provo temple would only allow one patron and two workers per initiatory booth. That would later become two patrons and two workers and now it is three workers and three patrons like normal.
I think that over time we will get to a point where they are filling up each seat in a session during "phase 3" before they move on to "phase 4"
It has been announced Logan will be redone, although no details on time or anything else.
I hope they announce 1 more temple for the LA temple district before closing. Iam not sure where it would be best placed. LA could be the first city in the US outside Utah with 2 temples.
John Pack Lambert, I think that Rexburg, in the State of Idaho, beat Los Angeles to that distinction. Both Rexburg Idaho Temple and Rexburg Idaho North Temple, which are outside Utah.
I am very much thinking Santa Catarina state could use a temple. A temple in Santa Maria would be nice.
Looking at the map Natal may also be a strong candidate for a temple.
Good point. I guess Los Angeles may be the first case outside Utah and Idaho. Or maybe Just say Utah and Madison County, Idaho.
How about a temple in Florinspolis? I think it's about midway between Curitiba and Porto Alegre. it can probably take a stake or more from each of the two temples.
Florianópolis and Natal or João Pessoa are certainly more likely to receive temples than the interior of the southern states of Brazil. I believe that even Ribeirão Preto can be announced earlier.
Los Angeles City will not get second temple. The LA Temple is too large to justify another temple in the city given the number of stake in the city area. Plus, the Yorba Linda Temple may take 2 to 4 stakes from LA.
I do think, however, that a temple in either Bakersfield or Ventura is a real possibility.
The site information, design and groundbreaking dates were just announced for the Freetown Temple. See here https://www.deseret.com/faith/2021/12/15/22837691/church-schedules-groundbreaking-releases-rendering-and-location-for-new-temple-in-west-africa.
Hugo Martinez the Africa West Area President who is doing the groundbreaking, is a Puerto Rican who joined the Church in Mississippi while doing a medical residency there. He lived most of his life in Puerto Rico, but also did his under grad in Mississippi. He may have lived elsewhere in the US mainland at some point.
I noticed the temple will be in Kossoh Town, which just had its district advanced to a stake. How many stakes are there in the Freetown Metro Area now? How many in Sierra Leone?
A brother in my branch in his talk last Sunday mentioned that on his mission in the Washington DC North Mission he taught and baptized many refugees from Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone and Ghana. At least that is what he said, the one example he gave was someone from Ivory Coast. The Sierra Leone temple will be bigger than the only existing temple in Nigeria.
Personally with the announcment of Vitoria getting a temple, I expect to see a large number of new temples announced for Brazil over the next 2 years.
I can see a second mission in either Saskatoon or Regina, Canada. With the second stake now in Winnipeg, 4 stakes and a TON of travelling would easily necessitate splitting the Canada Winnipeg Mission-which now encompasses All of Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Northern Ontario.
The need is still high in Brazil: interior of Rio Grande do Sul, interior of Paraná, interior of São Paulo, capital of Santa Catarina, capital of Paraíba or Rio Grande do Norte, isolated areas of Piauí, Tocantins and Mato Grosso...
The "Saarbrucken Ward- 66519" in the "Heidelberg Germany Stake - 515159", just split to organize the new "Trier Branch - 64602".
https://classic.churchofjesuschrist.org/maps/#ll=49.496204,7.608507&z=8&m=google.hybrid&layers=stakecenter&q=515159&find=stake:515159
"Branches Opened
...
195 Dec 15, 2021 Trier Branch"
http://www.fullerconsideration.com/units.php
It would be interesting to see if either Bogota Colombia or Guayaquil Ecuador get a 2nd temple announced, after Elder Neil L. Andersen recent visit last month.
"Elder Neil L. Andersen offers healing balm in visit to Ecuador and Colombia"
https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2021-12-15/elder-neil-l-andersen-ecuador-colombia-guayaquil-bogota-missionaries-covid-mission-presidents-236524
Or Rome Italy, after President Oaks recent visit to Rome.
"President Oaks champions blessings of religious freedom in address to students in Rome"
https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2021-12-14/president-oaks-rome-italy-religious-freedom-236625
The Trier Branch has been in the making for a very long time. It's a sizable city that is actually kind of hard to get to, with a large university. Missionaries have served in Trier for a couple of years now and a group has operated for just as long. I know that after Covid restrictions were first lifted last summer, attendance in the Trier group sometimes approached 100 (including those joining on video), many of whom were nonmembers or less actives who had lived in the area out of reach from established congregations in places like Saarbrücken, Idar-Oberstein, and Luxembourg. I'm still friends on Facebook with some missionaries who served in Trier and they always seemed to be baptizing.
I wouldn't be surprised to see 35 new temples announced next year, bringing the grand total to 300, which would likely bring us to 300 temples in operation by 2028.
Massive shift among Latter-day Saints in Rexburg with creation of new congregations.
https://www.eastidahonews.com/2021/12/massive-shift-among-latter-day-saints-in-rexburg-with-creation-of-new-congregations/
Evidently for now the Church Handbook of instructions is fully revised.
Under single adults it is now clear that you can create YSA and SA units as needed. There is also a defined way to create a magnet unit, where YSA or SA are put in a regular geographic unit. The later needs approval from the area presidency, but all unit creation needs even higher approval. I do not remember language as clear on this in the old version, although I could have missed or forgotten it.
There is also explicit inclusion of singles as being able to serve as "bishopric counsselors" and "stake presidency counselors" as well as "high councilrs". The only callings that would seem to not be on the list that are at all locally issued are bishops and stake presidents.
Also a young single adult man and a young single adult woman may be called as young single adult leaders. These people may attend the ward council as invited.
I highly doubt the Church is about to split a Canadian mission with 4 stakes. In the US there have been over the last few years consolidations that have done risen most missions above 4 stakes. The Michigan Lansing Mission has 4 stakes and 1 district, but almost every other mission has more. Detroit used to have 4 stakes, now it has 7, it got 2 from the old Cleveland Mission and has another stake organized. Boston and hartford missions were considated, Cheryr Hill mission was elimanated, Utica and Rochester were consolidated.
While the Manitoba Mission is geographically bigger, it is very sparsely populated. Also with Halifax and Montreal Missions combined there was a show of an attempt to balance number of members per mission more.
I just do not see any mission in Canada being split any time soon.
Responding to "Unknown" comment that mentioned the Newsroom announcement on temple reopenings. That release has gaps and inaccuracies that are not applicable, which can be confirmed by consulting the latest Church News updates:
https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2021-12-14/temple-reopening-status-tracker-worldwide-199279
https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2021-12-14/lds-temples-open-worldwide-phased-reopening-183918
Those articles mentioned Suva and Sydney, which were not included in the Newsroom release. There was also clarification that the Winnipeg and Pocatello temples are open in phase 3, and that Mesa will reopen in that same phase on Tuesday of next week.
Rio de Janeiro should not be included in the count because it won't be dedicated until May of next year. So with Mesa reopening, there will still be 9 temples mentioned as being closed for renovations. With one temple missing, the Newsroom update actually correctly notes that the Medford Oregon Temple closed for routine maintenance earlier this year, but of course, that process has been extended to categorize it as what the Newsroom calls a "renovation" and the Church News calls "extended maintenance." Unless the Church used nonmember construction personnel for the Medford project, a rededication will likely not be needed. That process could wrap up by the end of this year.
I'vve found when the Church News or Newsroom have any unexplained discrepancies in infotmation, it's helpful to consult both sources for a more complete understanding of the relevant facts. Hope this comment is helpful to all who read it.
In a precious thread, there was some commenentary on the Angel Moroni statues atop several temples, which could be removed in the future. We know that will be the case with the redesigned Provo Temple, and that neither Orem or Linfon will have one. That being said, I don't think a large-scale removal of these statues will be in the imminent future. I say that because one week ago (December 9), the previously-rmoved statue for the Columbus Ohio Temple was reinstalled atop that temple. And since we have reports of at least 10 temples that are or were in the construction or renovation queue that still retain those, unless the Church officially announces a phase-out of that cultural icon, I think it will still be used on some new or renovated temples. Just my additional commentary on that.
"previous", not "precious". I broke my left pointer finger 1.5 weeks ago and that may cause other typos in my comments for the next month or so. Sorry about that.
Unless they plan to do like Ogden or Provo with any older temples (which seems unlikely), the only temples I can think of that could have their statues removed during renovation are Bern Switzerland, London England, and São Paulo Brazil as they did not feature the statue until the early 2000s.
So far are only two temples have or plan to have statues removed. The Hong Kong China and the Provo Utah temples. I think with Provo being a complete new design, it is matching the current trend and similar style of other recently announced temple designs. The Columbus Ohio temple appears to only have minor changes to it's exterior design and kept it's statue. The Hong Kong change, on the other hand (according to my personal speculation) may be due to preparation for the future, if there becomes a time when mainland China exercises much more control there. I think having no tower or statue will make the temple less conspicuous and fit the environment better and allow us to be compliant with Chinese laws when and if things change in the semi autonomous territory. Beside growth and distance in other nearby countries, it may be another reason why we are seeing more temples in other southeast Asian nations. For example the Shanghai Temple announcement stated that it will be for only Chinese citizens. Could thy enforce the same restrictions in Hong Kong? The "Hong Kong Basic Law" states that it should retain its current economic and legal system for 50 years as a "Special administration region" of China as of July, 1997. Despite this, it appears that The mainland has been trying to enforce more control already, only midway through the agreement. With less exterior symbolism, it may help the church keep and maintain the temple and reduce the desecration of the sacred structure.
Possibility I though of is that they might not schedule Logan's renovation until they've completed Smithfield and announced a 3rd Cache County Temple/2nd Weber County Temple.
Personally I don't think that people from Logan would realistically want to go attend the temple in Weber County given a choice to stay in Cache Valley. Even if there is no operating temple in Cache Valley, they would pass Brigham City on any route they would realistically take there.
But I agree, waiting for a second and potentially third (south side of the valley; Hyrum?) temple would be a good choice.
@Pascal Friedmann
I suggested a second in Weber County because the Brigham City Temple is mid-sized and has been filling up more recently according to my friends who live there.
I doubt Rome will get a 2nd temple anytime soon. A second temple for Italy is possibly.
How close is Quito to being done?
I used to go to Brigham City quite regularly when I lived in Ogden, because it was not as busy. But that may have changed recently. I think that there are certainly some options to work with if that is the case: a temple in the southern Cache Valley (like Nibley or Hyrum), a temple in the Bear River Valley (Tremonton/Garland), or like you said a second temple in Weber County, probably out west. The holdback with the latter may be that it could be affecting Ogden too much, especially in regard to available workers and sealers.
I think all of these locations will have temples by 2030 by the way.
Recently closed the "Moscow Russia District". I'm not sure if consolidated with the Moscow Russia Stake or not.
John, my understanding is the Quito temple is complete, and they are awaiting announcement of Open House and Dedication. I suspect it has been delayed because of Covid restrictions, but that is just a guess.
Nancy, according to the Church Temples site, both the Yigo Guam and Quito Ecuador Temples are completed, with the Praia Cabo Verde and Belem Brazil Temples finalizing construction. COVID-19 has had a minor impact on most temples undergoing construction. Each of those four temples had at one point been anticipated to be dedicated (or at least completed) by the end of this year.
There are some nations that are closed to the United States. That may not apply to Ecuador, since Elder Andersen recently visited Ecuador and Colombia. But it appears that some areas of the world also have caps on gathering sizes. Above and beyond that, the first presidents have been announced for Yigo Guam, Praia Cabo Verde, and San Juan Puerto Rico Temples, but the First Presidency has not yet announced the first presidents for Quito Ecuador and Belem Brazil.
So I think the cap on large public gatherings might impact the timing of the dedications for each of those 5 temples. But unless the Church has to push the arrangements for the Rio de Janeiro Brazil Temple, I'm assuming that there will also be no obstacles to the scheduling of the Belem Brazil Temple. New Zealand closed its' borders in light of the newest variant, and Japan appears to be a mess, so I'm assuming that the rededications of the temples in Hamilton and Tokyo might be delayed.
The way I see it, the first half of next year may only see 2-3 temple dedications and the rededication of the Washington D.C. Temple during the first half of next year, while the second half of next year will see the number of temple dedications or rededications picking up. Any resulting backlog could be handled by individual apostles or groups of apostles being sent to take care of that. In such a scenario, beginning the second half of next year, the Church could potentially dedicate two new temple per month, which would continue for the foressable future. Hope these thoughts are helpful to all who read them.
Recently organized a new congregation in Turkey, the "Antalya Branch - 2195658", in Antalya, Turkey.
https://classic.churchofjesuschrist.org/maps/#ll=36.896891,30.713323&z=13&m=google.hybrid&layers=stakecenter&q=Antalya&x=find&find=ward:2195658
196 Dec 17, 2021 Antalya Branch Antalya, Turkey
@Pascal Friedmann
I would be enthused at any or all of those temple prospects you mentioned. :)
Tremonton would siphon some off Brigham City, but not until Brigham City hit 80 percent capacity, shi ch is whn, with other factors considered, they start looking at a new temple for an area.
Growth paterns are another. Most growth is south of Willard now (126/89/I-15 junction, I have not heard details on the area in western Weber including Marriott-Slaterville but have heard of new development there, the commuter rail will eventually reach Brigham City, ran to Pleasant View until a year or two ago.
Don't know populations of Bear River Valley communities. The number of stakes in a future Smithfield Districts and exactly where are not known yet so that will factor into any decision on a South Cache temple.
Currently I would expect a temple in Tremonton/Garland to cover the following stakes:
Tremonton (7 w/1 b)
Tremonton South (8 w)
Tremonton West (10 w)
Garland (10 w)
Fielding (9 w)
Malad ID (10 w)
That's 54 wards and 1 branch in the potential temple district. There is slow but steady population growth currently in the Bear River Valley, but I believe it is probably a question of time until it accelerates to match locations south and east.
A temple anywhere in Utah will spark growth or at least a change in demographics from one part of the area to another people like to live near a temple. Of a temple is announced for Termonton, I expect more development in that area.
"Latest Japanese triple combination edition updates footnotes, study helps and headings"
https://www.thechurchnews.com/global/2021-12-21/japanese-triple-combination-edition-updates-footnotes-study-helps-and-headings-237155
Huh, so the revisions to the English version in 2013 weren't replicated in every other language? I did not know that.
Regarding Thailand - Just like most places membership growth over the past two years has been small and the number attending meetings has dropped. The stake is called the Ubon Thailand stake, but I can't remember that stake's conference ever being held in Ubon. The city is located on the border with Laos and nowhere near the center of the northeast region of Thailand.
Should a mission be created one day for the Northeast region, it would be better located in Khon Kaen nearer to the geographic center of that region.
Reed Haslam
Former Missionary
Thailand Bangkok Mission
My best guess is that the church is already done announcing new missions for 2022. Most existing missions in foreign lands are just starting to ramp up with missionaries from the United States.
My guess is that the focus in Thailand is shifting towards preparing existing members for the temple. Helping them stay active. Helping them understand the significance of the ordinances they will have much closer access to. I would expect membership growth to accelerate again after the temple is dedicated. For now, I don't think a second Mission is in the immediate future, but it could very well happen this decade.
I think with the uncertainty of when covid 19 will truly leave and the disruption caused by the omicron fear leading to total border closure the first presidency may be waiting to make full decisions.
Some of the main net exporter countries for missionaries are small island nations in the South Pacific that have escaped the negative effects of Covid by banning international travel.
At least as of about a week ago Tonga had had 1 Covid case that was detected in a missionary of The Church of Jesus Christ 9f Latter-day Saints allowed to return.
South Africa seems to have gone through Omicron fairly well, but it is also going into summer.
I would not be surprised if no other new missions are announced for another year.
On the other hand I would not be surprised if a few are announced sometime before July 2022, including in May of 2022.
Charlotte, North Carolina just got a new Spanish-language ward. Ipswich, England just got a Portugues-language branch.
TempleRick got something in on Helena today, the process of building with modules is becoming more clear:
1. Build the foundation.
2. Ship in the modules and put them together on the foundation,
3. Assemble and attach the spire onsite then raise it into place (similar to Colubus rebuild, etc.)
There may be smaller, intermediate steps that overlap.
Are there any Portuguese speaking units in Texas? I’m trying to make a list of all those in the United States
Previous comment to Jim Anferson included numerous typos due to broken finger, so here’s a corrected version of the comment published by me here a6 3:06 PM:
Jim Anderson, I have received additional intel on modular temples. Right now, the modular design is still being tested and refined, and the Church currently only partners with one (or two?) facilities with the capacity to do those for now. And although the process of using modular components speeds construction on smaller temples, the number of modular temples the facility (or facilities) can prepare per year is relatively small (3-5 at most). So while the ultimate goal is to get temples constructed faster, until the modular temples can be produced en masse by multiple manufacturing companies around the world, the modular design will be the exception rather than the rule. Hopefully, as time goes on, the current company producing those can eventually train other companies to be comfortable with doing those modular components as well. That could change, but for now, that's new information I also recently came across.
Sad. I was hopeful that Vitória would be built that way...
James that is good information, and reasonable information too. It will tke some time to fully evaluate both the process and the places that will manufacture the modules. Then set a standard for what they want and also figure out how to get things from here to there if not in the 48 states,
And I do not think it is 2022 or even 2023 before all that is done so they can use the process more regularly, also unknown is if they will use it for any larger than anything we know they are testing now.
Andyes I have occasional typing issues as my right hand was mildly affected by the stroke 5 years ago
I really hope they learn and apply the lesson from the late90s- early 2000s temples where they tried to use a one size fits all construction / materials building process without consideration for local construction knowledge and requirements.
I understand that the buildings themselves are not the important part, the covenants are, but it would be nice to not have to essentially tear down and rebuild some of these temples in 5-15 years due to ignorance or arrogance.
I hope they do their best and wish all a merry Christmas
That could still happen, if Vitoria is selected for the 10,000 square feet design. Based on what I'm hearing on my end, it is more likely the Vitoria temple would be more comparable to Yigo Guam, Praia Cabo Verde, and San Juan Puerto Rico in size and layout. In such a case, multipurpose spaces (wherein a sealing room doubles as an endowment room and vice versa as scheduled), construction might be able to begin in Vitoria sooner than a modular design would be approved and available to be shipped.
Jim Anderson, we know the modular design is being used for Helena Montana, Casper Wyoming, and Elko Nevada, and that the new Torreon Mexico Temple will be the first one outside the United States to utilize the modular design. Maybe once that design is tested outside the US, contractors open to learning how to use them may start lining up, which could lead to greater use and expansion of the modular components.
It will be interesting to see what happens there.
That makes perfect sense, James. Thank you for clarifying this point.
For your Christmas present today...
A couple of Deseret News Articles on how President Nelson is sharing the responsibility of dedicating temples with the rest of the Brethren:
https://www.deseret.com/platform/amp/2021/12/23/22850626/lds-mormon-churchbeat-newsletter-president-nelsons-list-of-firsts-grows-temple-dedications
https://www.deseret.com/faith/2021/11/18/22788093/churchbeat-newsletter-lds-mormon-church-president-nelson-assigning-other-apostles-dedicate-temples
Ideally, 13 months from start to dedication.
Rexburg #2 will be similar to the Saratoga Springs temple.
I would think
@ The Chatelain's - there are not any Portuguese speaking units in Texas.
below is the list of those units
Boca Rio Ward (Portuguese) (2041340) Active Florida, United States Ward
Boston 4th Branch (Portuguese) (2074656) Active Massachusetts, United States Branch
Brockton Ward (Portuguese) (490008) Active Massachusetts, United States Ward
Cache Valley 3rd Branch (Portuguese) (2184451) Active Utah, United States Branch
Cambridge 4th Branch (Portuguese) (211699) Active Massachusetts, United States Branch
Central Falls 3rd Branch (Portuguese) (2068710) Active Rhode Island, United States Branch
City Ward (Portuguese) (463590) Active England, United Kingdom Ward
Clear Springs Branch (Portuguese) (1660772) Active Georgia, United States Branch
Crescent Park 6th Ward (Portuguese) (2170353) Active Utah, United States Ward
Garden 9th Ward (Portuguese) (2170930) Active Utah, United States Ward
Geneva Heights 9th Ward (Portuguese) (385980) Active Utah, United States Ward
Harvest Field Ward (Portuguese) (2170345) Active Utah, United States Ward
Ipswich 3rd Branch (Portuguese) (2189801) Active England, United Kingdom Branch
Ironbound Branch (Portuguese) (210188) Active New Jersey, United States Branch
Lowell 2nd Branch (Portuguese) (2131838) Active Massachusetts, United States Branch
Luxembourg 2nd Branch (Portuguese) (2172313)
Branche Luxembourg 2 (Portuguese)
Active Luxembourg, Luxembourg Branch
Madison Branch (Portuguese) (2169746) Active Idaho, United States Branch
Mapleton 24th Ward (Portuguese) (2061368) Active Utah, United States Ward
Miami Gardens Branch (Portuguese) (2174987) Active Florida, United States Branch
Midvale 17th Ward (Portuguese) (2176467) Active Utah, United States Ward
Mountain Shadows 1st Ward (Portuguese) (371327) Active Utah, United States Ward
Nampa 42nd Branch (Portuguese) (2148366) Active Idaho, United States Branch
North Pointe Ward (Portuguese) (2061376) Active Utah, United States Ward
Orchard Branch (Portuguese) (2178273) Active Utah, United States Branch
Orlando Ward (Portuguese) (2138409) Active Florida, United States Ward
Saratoga Hills 8th Ward (Portuguese) (2186926) Active Utah, United States Ward
Taylorsville 11th Ward (Portuguese) (2072106) Active Utah, United States Ward
Valley View Branch (Portuguese) (2160846) Active Nevada, United States Branch
Winder 17th Ward (Portuguese) (238937) Active Utah, United States Ward
Rexburg Idaho West Stake (2184389)
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Burton 2nd Ward (24511)
Burton 4th Ward (539767)
Hibbard 1st Ward (27537)
Oakbrook Ward (2072025)
Rexburg 13th Ward (114065)
Summerfield 1st Ward (1918435)
Summerfield 2nd Ward (2184400)
Willowbrook Ward (563099)
Boston, Rhode Island, and Hawaii are known for their concentrations of Portuguese speakers. These are usually Brazilians that come here for whatever reason and end up residents, but it is not even close to the Hispanic population--the Utah Area is doing extensive work there as we have 250k plus Hispanics in the general population, my stake hosts one of seven wards in Provo, the question of a Spanish stake came up during a leadership meeting in 2001 in the Provo Tabernacle, when asked about a Spanish stake Elder Ballard said it was not then in the cards.
They want the Hispanics to be more integrated with the rest of us here. I think it was someone from Provo that asked the question then, a Spanish stake has never been created in the 21 years since that leadership meeting.
I live in the Orem Utah Geneva Heights Stake. We have one ward each that is specifically for Spanish and Portuguese members. As a result of those congregations, for the last year or two, one of the counselors in the stake presidency has been from those Spanish or Portuguese congregations. It's been wonderful to see the impact of those congregations on the leadership of our stske.
Matt previously noted his hope to provide one new report per week, while also noting the increased demssiands on his time due to his expanding practice and new role as a member of his ward's bishopric. So I'm sure there are reports he'd loce to provide, but he may have other things that take priority. I will welcome new reports here from Matt wheneveer they might be provided. In the meatime, there are Church geowth developments we can continue to share here in the comments of his more recent posts. I hope these discussions will continue and thank Matt for his diligent efforts on all fronts. We appreciate you, Matt. Keep up the great work.
Anyone interested in making predictions for new Stakes in 2022? Just a few I see coming:
1. Pahrump, Nevada
2. Mansfield, Ohio
3. Powell, Wyoming
4. Alexandria, Virginia
5. St. Joseph, Missouri
6. Branson, Missouri
7. Chapel Hill, North Carolina
8. Clarksville, Tennessee
9. Las Vegas (Warm Springs/Green Valley), Nevada
10. West Salem, Oregon
11. Issaquah, Washington
12. Moses Lake (2nd), Washington
13. Post Falls, Idaho
14. Spokane Valley (3rd), Washington
15. Shawnee, Oklahoma
16. Lawrence, Kansas
That's all for now. What are your predictions for new stakes?
Considering how much time was saved by building the temples the way they were in 1998-2002 I cannot stomach the attacks that do not consider this. President Hinckley announced 32 new temples in April 1998 bringing announced temples to 100, there were more than 100 operating temples by the end of 2000. We are still in operating below the announced temples as of the end of 2017.
There are reasons to do things the way they are done. However the need for more times the late 1990s was urgent.
Matt is behind two newsletters, so hopefully one comes soon. I have a blog that I like to populate, but lately super slow, some of with trying to write a book and distracted by other things.
The state of China is sad and interesting. Our dealings with it may not improve after President Nelson. But things will change there with time.
Nepal is a slow growth country, as are Myanmar and the Central Asian nations.
Is Mongolia still progressing to have a temple?
Eduardo - This is not accurate - I have posted newsletters for the past two months. We are still in the process of upgrading cumorah.com, so we have not been able to upload them there yet. However, if you look to an early blog post, you can find the links to the newsletters that you can access via Google Drive.
Eduardo, the post to which Matt alluded in his comment above is at the following web address:
https://ldschurchgrowth.blogspot.com/2021/12/october-2021-and-november-2021.html
Thanks.
How about a list of stakes likely to be consolidated in the near future? There are many, and such a list would be arguably just as compelling (if not more so) than stakes expected to be split.
Fredrick, I'll comment on your list of possible new stakes for the areas I'm familiar with. The closest is Branson. Unless new units are created there it doesn't appear have enough to be a stake center. I live in SW Missouri and I keep an eye on So. Missouri and NW Arkansas.
I will note that a new stake center is being built in NWA (Centerton, AR) so I expect the Bentonville stake will split as soon as that opens. It seems they are holding off on creating new units there until it's built because all nearby meetinghouses are at or over capacity.
Lawrence,KS seems more likely. The Topeka stake looks almost ready to split.
As for Shawnee, OK, I don't see how a stake there makes sense (although the stake boundaries in the OKC/Stillwater area look like they could be realigned better to possibly create a new stake.)
Oh, great to hear! I need to get to the Google Drive then. Is that one of the Apps in my gmail account? By early blog post do you mean the last newsletter in this blog? I will try and figure it out, thanks. I am looking forward to reading them for a while now.
Let the searching begin…
On my desktop, at least, all I have to do to read the newsletters is go to the address James gave and click on the links. I don't know if it's the same process on other devices.
I included Shawnee because some of the stakes around it namely Edmond, Norman and Broken Arrow are either very large or very sparse. A Shawnee stake would take 2 staks from Edmond, 3 from Norman, and 2 from Broken Arrow.
I was looking at Centerton, AR but I didn't quite see the possibility of Bentonville splitting. Now I do see it.
As for stakes that could be consolidated, just review many of the stakes in SoCal, in particular in LA and North Oranges counties. Lots of stakes with around 6 units.
Eduardo, my previous comment shared the web address in which the links to the October and November newsletters can be found. To access the newsletters, you just need any app that is able to read and download PDF documents. Hope that helps.
For those of us into Church History and Architecture, here's some info on the Historic Ogden 4th Ward Chapel (a lovely building that I had the good fortune to visit a few times while I lived in Ogden):
https://www.facebook.com/165138366888968/posts/4626528760749884/
Stake splitting normally proceeds stake centers. We got a new stake here in Michigan and as far as I know there are no plans to build a new building because of it.
I could see Pahrump getting a stake, but probably only with some unit splitting at the same time.
I am sure the leading locations for new stakes this next year will be in DR Congo, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Sierra Leone and a few more countries in Africa.
If we see significant progress in Angola, we may see a temple announced there.
I am also hoping this next year can see significant stake progress in Ivory Coast outside Abijan.
I can see Pahrump getting a stake, but probably with unit divisions.
I would live to see a Boulder City stake as well, but do not see that coming soon, but I could be wrong.
I suspect Texas will see new stakes next year, Utah and Idaho as well. I am less sure exactly where, although Syracuse would not surprise me.
I am hoping New Delhi stake will divide, and either Hyderabad or Bangalaru stake.
I am sure Brazil will see a few new stakes. Peru as well, which might position it for another temple. The Philippines too, which also might lead to more times.
Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, DR Congo and Ghana will see new stakes. I am hoping Kenya will get a stake outside Kinshasa. Uganda seeing a new stake would be exciting, but I think now they need to move towards saturation.
I am hoping Rwanda gets a stake. I am also hoping Angola sees a new stake next year. Ivory Coast Abijan getting a few more stakes seems likely. I hope we can see new stakes across the country and Daloa stake divide.
There will be a new stake created on January 16, the Holland Michigan Stake. It will include units from the Grand Rapids Stake and three units now in the Kalamazoo Stake.
Pahrump is somewhat smaller but is growing due to people wanting to escape Vegas but still keeping jobs there, decent state highway (Blue Diamond Road in Vegas) gets you 'over the hump'.
Africa is the real hotbed, Matt just put up a post which showed that for likely new stakes.
Anything Latin America although growth has somewhat slowed in many areas, activation will be the key there.
Rwanda will get one but not for a few years, takes time to develop local leadership in developing areas, the matter of translating materials into the local languages has only begun according to Matt's earlier post on that.
Boulder City won't get a stake for awhile since the town has only four wards. Pahrump, however, could get one any time as the city has five wards and a branch. A Pahrump Stake could also include the branch in Beatty and the ward in Tonopah (which is the county seat of Nye County), which is located halfway between Fallon (where it part of one of the stakes there) and Pahrump.
Tucson AZ has two stakes, Marana and Tucson South, both preceded the temple, but I just learned neither stake has a stake center planned and all the other buildings are maxed out on accomodating the wards that are there now, and many wards could be split if it were not for low activity rates, one has sacrament meeting attendance of about 150 but has 700 in its boundaries.
Well, stake splitting often accompanies ward splitting. So the units now are not the fullystoryof the units that will be.
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