Some cycles of current Church growth remind me of the differences between the Nephites and Lamanites in the Book of Mormon. While some areas of the wealthier "first world" are stagnant(pardon if that is antiquated or offensive to some), less developed nations are seeing some tremendous growth. Food for thought, Ammon or others converting the traditional non-believers, from areas of strength.
We again saw 3 units created in a district in Nigeria this week. That district may well make stake status soon. I would not be surprised if Nigeria has 50 stakes by the time of April conference.
I wanted to make an observation about the history of race and religion. Not sure how to voice it, having to do with the Bible and Book of Mormon, current trends... Recentlty doing a look at Haitian communities in the United States. Provo, Utah (according to Wikipedia) was one of the top 37 Haitian places in the US, most of them being on the West Coast (west of the Mississippi). I wonder how many fellow Haitian-Americans like Mia Love live in Utah outside of Provo?
Correction, sorry: most of the largest Haitian concentrations are on the East Coast, like in Florida and New York. Canada has its share, too. Temple is progressing in Port-au-Prince as well.
Do you have any details on which wards were assigned to the new stake? Also, any other interesting updates on recent LDS growth trends in Cote d'Ivoire you would wish to share?
Actually with this new stake, half of the stakes in Ivory Coast have been formed since the temple was announced in April 2015 if I counted right. In the case of Daloa Stake the preceding district was formed a week after the temple was announced.
Park of me wishes temples were still built as fast as in the late 1990s. For example Detroit Temple was announced August 1998 and dedicated October 1999. If the Abidjan Temple had been built as fast it would gave been dedicated in June 2016. I think though Kyiv Ukraine Temple took about 10 years from announcement to dedication. Rome Italy will hit 10 years from announcement in October of 2018.
The temples like Detroit built in the "100 for the turn of the century" phase were mostly mini-temples that were perhaps 10-12 thousand square feet. Maybe a month dedicated per square thousand feet, and the grounds were already purchased and vetted for soundness and water, because most were built alongside a stake center, right? The temples like in Indianapolis or Hartford are three times bigger and had to be converted as such without the previous ownshership of the land, as I see it, thus making a two or three year turn around pretty difficult. Then again, Cordoba took a long time, as others mentioned, and it is nice to see temples be built sooner than later. Has anyone heard or seen rumors of an ISIS guy posing in front of the San Diego Temple? This would be unfortunate. Religious violence and intimidation always sullies true meaning endeavors. And might I add politics is involved in these messes, conflating with religious beliefs. At least for the 20th century political ideologies killed or threatened more people than religious movements. The 21st century has swung toward more religious fanaticism and extremism. Not sure how to describe North Korea other than a political cult, although China is a case of a collective cult, if you will, under the auspices of a Maoist/capitalist collectivism. Too bad the church does not have more freedom there. India has limited freedoms as well, but the work is progressing. Sub-Saharan's time is blossoming, great to see. How many temples on the continent by 2020?
Detroit Temple the Church bought that land in the 1950s. Due to the size of the stake center parking lot no parking lot building was even needed. In a case like room all 4 or 5 buildings are being built on a 15 acre site. The Detroit Temple llus the adjacent stake center is only 8 acres, but less than 4 were landscaped or built on up to temple standards.
Another plus for the Detroit Temple is that it is shorter than the stake center. This contrasts with say Phoenix that although it was built by an existing chaple since it is taller than that chaple faced a lot of delays.
True. Several San Diego news outlets ran the story late Sunday evening about ISIS targeting the San Diego Temple in the same story about wrecking Christmas at the Vatican. Since 9/11, the trails of several jihadists have passed thru San Diego. You can see their graphic image from the ISIS blogs in this news story. https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017/dec/04/stringers-jihadists-san-diegos-mormon-temple/
This is cool, the senior missionaries serving in Beirut, Lebanon report that they had the first YSA conference for Arabic speakers across the Middle East: https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865693527/Shining-moment-LDS-young-adults-participate-in-YSA-conference-in-the-Middle-East.html
From the Sierra Leone Freetown facebook: "Dec 2 and 3rd, The Freetown Sierra Leone Stake was divided into two Stakes: The Freetown Stake and the Freetown East Stake. "
The missionary I know in that mission mentioned two stakes being created but I that that comes from new presidencies for the Freetown and Freetown East stakes.
In Colorado they condolidated two stakes into the Front Range Colorado Stake. Like the two most recent formed stakes in Massachusetts this is not named after a spevific city but a generalized geographical area.
If I remember correctly, the Golden Colorado Stake was the stake involved in the split of the Meeker Colorado Stake a month or two ago. If that is correct, then this really wasn't a loss of a stake but a change in location of where the stakes were located, probably so that the western Colorado saints don't have to travel as far for meetings.
That is correct, David. I believe the Golden stake was left with 5 units at the time, so a unit must have been discontinued between now and then. TempleRick shows 3 more units discontinued recently in the area of the reorganized Front Range Colorado stake, so I would guess the merger of the two stakes has been considered for some time. Perhaps that would explain the transfer of the new units to the Craig and Rifle stakes, as it appears that two of them, Frisco and Granby, are actually farther from their new stake centers in Rifle and Craig respectively than they were from Golden.
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Some cycles of current Church growth remind me of the differences between the Nephites and Lamanites in the Book of Mormon. While some areas of the wealthier "first world" are stagnant(pardon if that is antiquated or offensive to some), less developed nations are seeing some tremendous growth.
Food for thought, Ammon or others converting the traditional non-believers, from areas of strength.
We again saw 3 units created in a district in Nigeria this week. That district may well make stake status soon. I would not be surprised if Nigeria has 50 stakes by the time of April conference.
I wanted to make an observation about the history of race and religion. Not sure how to voice it, having to do with the Bible and Book of Mormon, current trends...
Recentlty doing a look at Haitian communities in the United States. Provo, Utah (according to Wikipedia) was one of the top 37 Haitian places in the US, most of them being on the West Coast (west of the Mississippi).
I wonder how many fellow Haitian-Americans like Mia Love live in Utah outside of Provo?
Correction, sorry: most of the largest Haitian concentrations are on the East Coast, like in Florida and New York. Canada has its share, too.
Temple is progressing in Port-au-Prince as well.
Today 03 december the cotediviore niangon centre stake was created
Chidiebere Joshua,
Do you have any details on which wards were assigned to the new stake? Also, any other interesting updates on recent LDS growth trends in Cote d'Ivoire you would wish to share?
Also any word on progress on the temple in Abijan. I believe the number of stakes in Ivory Coast has n early doubled since the temple was announced.
Actually with this new stake, half of the stakes in Ivory Coast have been formed since the temple was announced in April 2015 if I counted right. In the case of Daloa Stake the preceding district was formed a week after the temple was announced.
Park of me wishes temples were still built as fast as in the late 1990s. For example Detroit Temple was announced August 1998 and dedicated October 1999. If the Abidjan Temple had been built as fast it would gave been dedicated in June 2016. I think though Kyiv Ukraine Temple took about 10 years from announcement to dedication. Rome Italy will hit 10 years from announcement in October of 2018.
The temples like Detroit built in the "100 for the turn of the century" phase were mostly mini-temples that were perhaps 10-12 thousand square feet. Maybe a month dedicated per square thousand feet, and the grounds were already purchased and vetted for soundness and water, because most were built alongside a stake center, right?
The temples like in Indianapolis or Hartford are three times bigger and had to be converted as such without the previous ownshership of the land, as I see it, thus making a two or three year turn around pretty difficult. Then again, Cordoba took a long time, as others mentioned, and it is nice to see temples be built sooner than later.
Has anyone heard or seen rumors of an ISIS guy posing in front of the San Diego Temple? This would be unfortunate. Religious violence and intimidation always sullies true meaning endeavors. And might I add politics is involved in these messes, conflating with religious beliefs.
At least for the 20th century political ideologies killed or threatened more people than religious movements.
The 21st century has swung toward more religious fanaticism and extremism. Not sure how to describe North Korea other than a political cult, although China is a case of a collective cult, if you will, under the auspices of a Maoist/capitalist collectivism.
Too bad the church does not have more freedom there. India has limited freedoms as well, but the work is progressing.
Sub-Saharan's time is blossoming, great to see. How many temples on the continent by 2020?
Detroit Temple the Church bought that land in the 1950s. Due to the size of the stake center parking lot no parking lot building was even needed. In a case like room all 4 or 5 buildings are being built on a 15 acre site. The Detroit Temple llus the adjacent stake center is only 8 acres, but less than 4 were landscaped or built on up to temple standards.
Another plus for the Detroit Temple is that it is shorter than the stake center. This contrasts with say Phoenix that although it was built by an existing chaple since it is taller than that chaple faced a lot of delays.
True. Several San Diego news outlets ran the story late Sunday evening about ISIS targeting the San Diego Temple in the same story about wrecking Christmas at the Vatican. Since 9/11, the trails of several jihadists have passed thru San Diego. You can see their graphic image from the ISIS blogs in this news story. https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017/dec/04/stringers-jihadists-san-diegos-mormon-temple/
This is cool, the senior missionaries serving in Beirut, Lebanon report that they had the first YSA conference for Arabic speakers across the Middle East: https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865693527/Shining-moment-LDS-young-adults-participate-in-YSA-conference-in-the-Middle-East.html
From the Sierra Leone Freetown facebook: "Dec 2 and 3rd, The Freetown Sierra Leone Stake was divided into two Stakes: The Freetown Stake and the Freetown East Stake. "
The missionary I know in that mission mentioned two stakes being created but I that that comes from new presidencies for the Freetown and Freetown East stakes.
The Santa Ana El Salvador Los Pinos Stake will be created this Sunday, December 10.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Asuntos-P%C3%BAblicos-Estaca-El-Molino-Santa-Ana-431644413587708/posts/
A major reorganization of stakes in Cochabamba, Bolivia, created two new stakes in that city last month.
In Colorado they condolidated two stakes into the Front Range Colorado Stake. Like the two most recent formed stakes in Massachusetts this is not named after a spevific city but a generalized geographical area.
If I remember correctly, the Golden Colorado Stake was the stake involved in the split of the Meeker Colorado Stake a month or two ago. If that is correct, then this really wasn't a loss of a stake but a change in location of where the stakes were located, probably so that the western Colorado saints don't have to travel as far for meetings.
That is correct, David. I believe the Golden stake was left with 5 units at the time, so a unit must have been discontinued between now and then. TempleRick shows 3 more units discontinued recently in the area of the reorganized Front Range Colorado stake, so I would guess the merger of the two stakes has been considered for some time. Perhaps that would explain the transfer of the new units to the Craig and Rifle stakes, as it appears that two of them, Frisco and Granby, are actually farther from their new stake centers in Rifle and Craig respectively than they were from Golden.
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