Kenya
A new stake was created in Kenya on July 14th. The Kyulu Kenya Stake was organized from the Kyulu Kenya District (organized in 1992). Information on which of the 10 branches in the district became wards remains unavailable. Notwithstanding its rural location, the Kyulu area was one of the first locations to have an official Church presence established in Kenya. Villages with branches in the Kyulu Hills generally have populations of less than 5,000 people (the largest urban centers with an official congregation are Madinku [branch organized in 2023)] and Mtito Andei [branch organized in 2003] which have populations of 15,000 and 5,600, respectively). Kyulu is the first stake to be organized in East Africa to be located in a rural location in which nearly all members in the stake live outside of cities and towns. Moreover, the Kyulu Kenya Stake is the first stake to be organized in Kenya outside of Nairobi. The Church has worked for many years to organize a stake in Kyulu, as there have been enough branches and members to organize a stake, although the area had not meet criteria to organize a stake in regard to member activity and leadership. There is only one other location in Kenya where the Church has established multiple branches and a district in such a rural area, which is the Kilungu Hills Kenya District (organized in 2014). The first branch in the Kilungu Hills was also organized in 1992 at a time when mission and area leaders were more open to establishing the Church in rural areas without a nearby official branch.
There are now four stakes and five districts in Kenya. The Eldoret Kenya District appears most likely to be organized into a stake within the foreseeable future among the five remaining districts. Significant growth has recently occurred in the Kisumu Kenya District, which now has eight branches - half of which have been organized within the past 5 years.
Angola
A new district was created in Angola. The Lubango Angola District was organized from mission branches within the city of Lubango located in southern Angola. The Church has grown slowly in Lubango since the first branch was created in the city in 2011. Only two branches are in the district, namely the Mapunda and Tchioco Branches, although there is at least one member group that also operates in the city (Eiva). The creation of a district with only two branches likely indicates imminent plans to organize additional branches in the city.
There are now two stakes and two districts in Angola.
Looks like the first French unit in Texas was organized about a month ago, the Houston 7th Branch. Organized on June 23, 2024. Currently going through unit growth in Texas this year and will publish my results later today.
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I would assume made up mostly of immigrants from Francophone Africa?
DeleteSpeaking of language specific units, has anyone else noticed that you can't search for language on the meetinghouse locator anymore? If so, do you know why that might be? The ability to narrow searches for a specific language can be really helpful for travelers and other people, and I really can't think of a downside to providing that functionality.
ReplyDeleteReliglang I don't know why that would be either. My stake in Phoenix has two Spanish wards, and so does one of our neighboring stakes. Very helpful for people to know about.
DeleteTwo recent announcements that are tangentially related to Church Growth (or that may lead to future growth):
ReplyDeleteThe 2034 Winter Olympics will be back in Salt Lake!
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/first-presidency-statement-2034-winter-olympics
And...
Munich Council of Religions accepts The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/munich-council-of-religions-accepts-the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints
I'm hopeful that the Olympics will once again bring more tourism to Temple Square from all over the world, particularly to see all the renovations that will have been completed by then.
BYU is going to open a Medical School. It will have a focus on international and Humanitarian healthcare and the needs of the church around the world. https://www.ksl.com/article/51082528/church-of-jesus-christ-announces-plans-for-medical-school-at-byu-
ReplyDeleteI'll bet money that the new school medical school at BYU will be named the Russell M Nelson School of Medicine
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ReplyDeleteThis looks like it may be in response to the church growth and needs around the world.b
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ReplyDeleteKansas City area just reported 8 new congregations (wards and branches) being created in the area, including a Tongan branch, Spanish branches and wards, and an ASL unit)
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0octvi694Q5vnwSAQx9jGvqutkDXrgyWYwxs1e7PmUqgscfLd8XnRRtR7gd7C11G8l&id=100064540398251&mibextid=Nif5oz
With the growth or the BYU Pathway program and BYU's new medical school having an international focus, I wonder if they can partner together to transfer students from Pathway to Provo or start the prerequisites
ReplyDeleteor even semester or two of medical classes online before moving to Provo to finish.
I don't see that happening unless Pathways starts offering more traditional and more academically rigorous programs particularly in the sciences. In order for BYU's medical school to get accredited and have any semblance of credibility in the medical community, the Pathway programs, as they exist today, simply won't cut it as prerequisite degrees.
DeleteGreat to see The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints expanding into medical practices and care. The purpose of the Good News of Jesus is to help heal others and makes us whole. Certainly, we can help to heal the world spiritually and physically. Religions and us organized believers should make an impact with these efforts.
ReplyDeleteI love seeing units of American Sign Language. This is a great resource for those hearing impaired, to open up to help each other and those who can hear.
I Africa now, which language will be the top three? I think it might be French, then English, then Portuguese. Portuguese is quickly rising, though.
Great stuff.
I had a friend who started with BYU-Pathway and then transferred to BYU so it can be done. The math course in BYU-Pathway is definitely rigorous. However the March to medical school is mainly from rigorous undergraduate scientific work, and helped by experience in labs. BYU has been emphasizing undergraduate research opportunities and the like. BYU is the only part of the Church Educationsl system that has research as a key part of its mandate. I do not expect that to change.
ReplyDeleteThis is going to hugely increase the annual cost to operate BYU. I am surprised by iymt, even though in the long run I think it will do much good. I expect it will be named the Russell M. Nelson Medical School.
The developments in both Kenya and Angola are exciting. Ground was also just broken on a new area office for the Africa Central Area. This along with the Kinshsa MTC shows things are looking up there.
I am very hopeful that a temple is announced for Kampala, Uganda. I have some hopes for a 5th DR Congo Temple as well.
The only math class I see offered by Pathways is something called "Math for the Real World.". This is supposed to be rigorous? Where is the Calculus? Trigonometry? Or even Algebra? Not to mention basic science courses like Physics & Chemistry? The problem with Pathways as a standalone school is it's basically a glorified trade school not really intended to send its students to graduate school in general let alone medical school.
DeleteWell I think it's purpose is to prepare people for undergraduate programs. So it makes sense it would focus on the basics.
Delete@Ohhappydane33, you seem to be misunderstanding how BYU-Pathway works. There is the PathwayConnect component, which is basically a sequence of college prep courses (including the math class you referenced), and there is the Certificates and Degrees component, in which BYU-Pathway students matriculate through BYU-Pathway into either BYU-Idaho or Ensign College for a limited number of programs offered in partnership with BYU-Pathway Worldwide (which do include math above and beyond that which you mentioned). That said, it is true that a degree through BYU-Pathway would probably be inadequate to get into medical school by itself for the simple reason that certain prerequisite classes are not offered through BYU-Pathway, let alone the labs, so students would need to take those separately.
DeleteThe core math class that BYU-Pathway has is quite rigorous. There is no "problem" with BYU-Pathway being a trade school. Getting people education that prepares them to work is key. There has been far too much ill written about trade schools, the trades and the like. For too long people have spoken as if the only acceptable path in life is going to college. However the above is very much misunderstanding the place and role of BYU-Pathway. It is not an end but a starting point. The end for those who need more than starting level certificates is found through courses with BYU-Idaho, BYU-Hawaii, Ensign College or transferring to other institutions. The math class that all BYU-Pathway students take in their first year clearly has college level algebra.
ReplyDeleteMy wife has an M.Ed. but went through Pathway in hopes of boosting her credentials. The math class included things that I never had in a math class at BYU, particularly interest - though I did have some of that in Engineering Math.
DeleteI promise this will be my last comment for a while. I was looking into recent medical school starts. Thry are often announced 4 years before the first class is admitted. So BYU having a medical school class start in 2028 might be doable. I also have a crazy idea of who could head it. The thing is that person does not have an MD but he does have a degree from a medical school and a PhD and has done lots of research related to medical issues. I am the guy who once ever made a this general authority will not be called to the 12 presdictolion, and despite maybe 5% of general authorities ever being called to the 12 I was wrong. So I now accept that I am fairly bad at these predictions and will be content to know if I am right even though no one else will.
ReplyDeleteNobody is saying that the BYU Pathway program isn't useful or in any way bad. The comments were just in response to the thought that pathway might be good at preparing students for the new BYU medical school, which is not likely the case as its intended purpose is different.
ReplyDeleteIn the article about the groundbreaking of the new offices for the Africa Central Area in Nairobi, Elder Ardern is quoted as saying the Church is currently recognized by 11 of the area's 18 nations, with plans for the Church to soon be recognized in 6 additional countries. I'm wondering which countries could be opening up soon, and if this is part of a larger global effort, on the heals of receiving recognition in South Sudan and Azerbaijan in recent weeks.
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https://www.thechurchnews.com/members/2024/07/29/africa-central-area-office-building-groundbreaking-nairobi-kenya/
11 countries where the Church is currently recognized:
1 - Burundi
2 - Cameroon
3 - Republic of the Congo
4 - Democratic Republic of the Congo
5 - Ethiopia
6 - Gabon
7 - Kenya
8 - Rwanda
9 - South Sudan
10 - Tanzania
11 - Uganda
7 remaining countries, with 6 of these expected to be receive recognition soon:
12 - Central African Republic (although a branch exists here)
13 - Djibouti (a military branch has existed here)
14 - Eritrea (an administrative branch used to exist here)
15 - Equatorial Guinea (included in the Cameroon mission)
16 - Somalia (Church members have lived here for decades)
17 - Seychelles (I've long wondered why we are not already operating here)
18 - Sao Tome and Principe (exploratory trip occurred in 2015)
My guess is Somalia will be the last holdout, although I hope the largely non-recognized region of Somaliland could see more collaboration with the Church in the coming years.
In other areas, I would love to see Guinea-Bissau, Burkina Faso, Chad, Niger, Mauritania, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan establish closer ties to the Church.
Thank you for sharing those links. It is hard to overstate how shocking it would be if the church were recognized in Eritrea, which has one of the most repressive governments on earth, on par with North Korea. Reading the article where Elder Ardern is quoted, I note that he said "we will continue to watch over and support the growth of the church in the 11 African nations where we are recognized and six others that will soon enough be open to the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ" which is not quite the same thing as saying the church will be receiving recognition in them soon. It certainly could mean that, but it could also just as easily be an expression of general optimism for the future.
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I believe the CAR, Equatorial Guinea, Seychelles and Sao Tome are realistic places to enter and expand within by the end of the decade. Outside of Africa, also add Timor-Leste (although there is a branch already). If we accomplish this, I would already be ecstatic.
DeleteGlad to hear about BYU's new medical school.
ReplyDeleteI hope this means they'll be improving and updating their disability/accessibily services, as well.
Fun growth update from the Bolivia Santa Cruz North Mission, where I served. Since the beginning of the year, 1 new ward and 4 new branches have been organized within the mission. The ward and 3 of the branches were organized within the Santa Cruz Bolivia La Pampa Stake, namely the Guaracachi Ward and the Tupa Ruete, Tavaguasu, and La Casona Branches. The other new branch was organized in the city of San Julian, within the Montero Bolivia Stake. Missionaries were first assigned to this city only about two years ago, and the population in likely only around 30,000-40,000 people. Additionally, a group continues to operate within the Montero Bolivia Stake in the town of Ascension (Guarayos), where missionaries were first assigned about three years ago. Hopefully it will become a branch soon.
ReplyDeleteThanks Cfunk! I was not aware of the new branch or the group. Are there any other groups in the mission? I have been surprised that there has not been a group or branch created in San Ignacio de Velasco or San José de Chiquitos.
DeleteHey Matt! As of this time last year, a group was also functioning in Portachuelo, within the Montero Bolivia Stake under the Guabira Ward. Missionaries are still assigned there and I believe the group still functions, though I don't know if they meet in Portachuelo every Sunday, given the relative proximity of the Guabira Ward. Missionaries were first assigned to only Portachuelo around April or May 2023. San Jose de Chiquitos is in the other Santa Cruz Mission, so I don't know much about it. As for San Ignacio de Velasco and other sizable towns in eastern Bolivia, such as Concepcion, the remoteness of the area, combined with concerns about drug trafficking and a very conservative Jesuit Catholic culture and majority, are the reasons I've heard as to why missionaries have yet to be assigned. Still, there would seem to be a lot of potential in these areas, as from my experience the Bolivian people in these smaller towns were typically very receptive to the gospel message.
DeleteNauvoo got a YSA branch organized recently. Also a visitors branch. I'm not aware how a visitors branch operates, either seasonal or permanently but it's there.
ReplyDeleteI know there used to be a student or YSA branch in Nauvoo a few years ago (Nauvoo 2nd).
A visitors branch sounds seasonal, is it the preferred unit for visitors during the summer tourist season?
ReplyDeleteNot necessarily. Manhattan borough in New York has one too, which I think includes those there for a few months at a time.
DeleteI know on Mau'i they have a visitors branch. In a post fire article thry mentioned a youth whose family had been impacted by the fire. They mentioned that on a particular weekend he was involved in some way with the sacrament (I can't remember if it was passing or blessing) in both his home ward and the visitors units. I believe there is a unit by Bear Lake in Utah they create and dissolve every year, because it only makes sense part of the year when large numbers of vacationers are in the area. On the other hand I have to wonder if St. George and Yuma have any units thry close for the summer when snow birds go north. It may be easier to fill and staff Yuma Arizona Temple in the winter than the summer. .
ReplyDeleteA small observation, while reviewing the Meetinghouse Locator mapsite. I found that since reviewing the Stakes/Districts assigned to the Brazil Manaus North Mission on June 26th. The "Manaus Brazil Guarany Stake ( 1950630)", as i had it spelled until now. Has changed the English spelling from "Guarany" to "Guarani", with a letter "i" at the end.
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Also, the "Rio de Janeiro Brazil Stake (506494)" has been renamed in the last month to "Duque de Caxias Brazil Stake (506494)".
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Regarding the newly announced medical school, I would not be surprised if the current interim Dean at the U of U medical school, Sam Finlayson, is tapped for a leadership position unless named as the permanent dean at Utah. Beyond his extensive experience, he is just a great, exemplary person and as a former bishop, would be a great fit from a church perspective, based on my interactions with him 15+ years ago in NH.
ReplyDeleteNow, with about 8 weeks left until October 2024 Conference, does anyone want to start the posting of their early predictions for 15 or 20 new Temples to be announced this conference?
ReplyDelete49 years ago the church got out of the hospital business and for good reason because of the liability and the many that it would cost to keep up with modern day technology. Now the church wants to build a medical school at BYU I'm having a hard time understanding what will be the cost of this University and what and where will the money come from
DeleteI don't have an updated list, and at the moment, I don't feel up to updating it, but I can share my list from last time, minus the temples that were announced.
ReplyDeleteAFRICA
-Daloa, Cote d'Ivoire
-Enugu, Nigeria
-Kampala, Uganda
-Lome, Togo
-Maputo, Mozambique
-Port Harcourt, Nigeria
ASIA
-Olongapo, Philippines
CENTRAL AMERICA
-Poza Rica, Mexico
-Reynosa, Mexico
-Santa Maria, El Salvador
-Santiago, Dominican Republic
EUROPE
-Dublin, Ireland
-Milan, Italy
-Palermo, Italy
-Prague, Czechia
-Seville, Spain
NORTH AMERICA
-Camarillo, California
-El Paso, Texas
-Evanston, Wyoming
-Everett, Washington
-Fairfield, California
-Flagstaff, Arizona
-Henderson, Nevada
-Manchester, New Hampshire
-Milwaukee, Wisconsin
-Mobile, Alabama
-Nampa, Idaho
-Pleasant View, Utah
-Price, Utah
-Queen Creek, Arizona
-Spanish Fork, Utah
OCEANIA
-Hobart, Australia
SOUTH AMERICA
-Curico, Chile
-Neuquen, Argentina
-Resistencia, Argentina
-Santa Maria, Brazil
-Tacna, Peru
-Temuco, Chile
Chris, it'll likely be 20, since I heard that President Nelson wants to announce a minimum of 35 new temples yearly. I have prepared my master list, which you linked to earlier:
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As for more specific picks, I finally got my 20 figured out:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AHEJOqAjEJDN7aXQLlfrkzc2yTVer6E0TRR5eYdNKB8/edit?usp=sharing
They are at the bottom of that document. Hope this information is helpful.
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ReplyDeleteI agree, President Nelson will likely announce 20 to reach 35 yet again However, I have wondered if it's possible this number could be upwards of 32 (tied for the most announced in a single conference) which would leave President Nelson with a total of 200 announced temples.
ReplyDeleteHere is my list.
ReplyDeleteManchester, New Hampshire
Albany, New York
Stanton, Pennsylvania
Norfolk, Virginia
Greensboro, North Carolina
Wilmington, North Carolina
Charleston, South Carolina
Athens, Georgia
Huntsville, Alabama
Hattiesburg, Mississippi
Dayton, Ohio
Fort Wayne, Indiana
Lansing, Michigan
Champaign, Illinois
Appleton or Fon du Lac, Wisconsin
Rapid City, South Dakota
Longview, Texas
El Paso, Texas
San Luis Valley, Colorado
Evanston, Wyoming
Rigby, Idaho
West Haven, Utah
Spanish Fork or Mapleton, Utah
Price, Utah
Fillmore, Utah
Chinle, Arizona
Queen Creek, Arizona
Surprise, Arizona
Flagstaff, Arizona
Henderson, Nevada
Pullman, Washington
Everett, Washington
Salem, Oregon
Santa Rosa, California
Santa Paula, California
San Luis Obispo, California
Temecula, California
Mexicali Mexico
Durango, Mexico
Poza Rica, Mexico
3rd Guatemala City Temple
Santa Ana, El Salvador
Kingston, Jamaica
Santiago, Dominican Republic
Barcelona, Venezuela
Medellin, Colombia
Tanna, Peru
3 more Lima Peru Temples
Toronto, Ontario with existing temple renamed Brampton
Juneau, Alaska
Puerto Montt, Chile
Resistencia Argentina
Santa Maria Brazil
Sorocaba Brazil
3 more Sao Paulo Temples
Cuiaba Brazil
Sao Luis Brazil
Bristol, England
London England Hyde Park
Dublin, Ireland
Bourdeaux, France
Milan, Italy
Tirana, Albania
Prague, Czech Republuc
Munich, Germany
Berlin, Germany
Goteborg, Sweden
Nagano, Japan
Olongapo, Philippines
Legazipi City, Philippines
Manila, Philippines with existing temple renamed to Quezon City
Hobart, Australia
2nd temple in Nuku'alofa, Tonga
Haapai Group, Tonga
Marshall Islands
Christ Church, New Zealand
Bo, Sierra Leone
Yamasoukro, Ivory Coast
Abuja, Nigeria
Port Harcourt, Nigeria
Enugu, Nigeria
Lome, Togo
1nd temple in Kinshasa
Kolwezi, DR Congo
Mwene-Ditu DR Congo
Bulawayo, Zimbabwe
East London, South Africa
Pretoria, South Africa
Maputo, Mozambique
And last but most likely Kampala, Uganda
Micronesia?
DeleteI meant to say 2nd temple in Kinshasa.
ReplyDeleteI would also but Lilongwe, Malawi as a possible total surprise. New Delhi, India also.
I might as well add in
Ciudad Obregon, Mexico
Reynosa, Mexico and
Waco, Texas to get us to an even 100.
I also noticed that I misspelled Scranton, Pennsylvania. That is the place I meant.
ReplyDeleteI think this list would get us to a 5th of US states with 5 Temples at least announced, and past a quarter of states with at least 4 Temples announced. We have already made half the states with 2 and a third of the states with 3.
JPL, a couple questions. From this list, did you mean Nagano, Japan, or Nagoya Japan, that Matt has on his map? Matt suggested that Nagoya Japan could have 4 Stakes.
ReplyDeleteAnd did you mean Tacna Peru, instead of the posted "Tanna Peru"?
And does Santa Paula California even have one stake to justify a Temple announcement? On the church maps, Santa Paula has just 1 branch assigned to the nearby Ventura California Stake (even though maybe not centrally located like Santa Paula California. The Ventura California location logistically may be a better choice to draw temple workers, than Santa Paula.
Or were you inspired to choose Santa Paula over Ventura as a possible site?
Anyway thank you for posting this exceptional list. I have incorporated these 96 into my list also.
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ReplyDeleteFrom Elder Kevin Duncan’s Twitter feed:
ReplyDeleteBefore temples are dedicated for their sacred purpose, the public is invited to see the beauty of the temple and learn about the commitments we make there with God. Come and see inside an upcoming temple open house:
Pittsburgh PA - Aug 2024
Mendoza Argentina - Aug 2024
San Pedro Sula, Honduras Sep 2024
Casper WY - Sep 2024
Salvador, Brazil - Aug 2024
Deseret Peak, UT - Sep 2024
Tallahassee, FL - Nov 2024
Coming in 2025:
Antofagasta, Chile
Auckland, NZ
Abidjan Ivory Coast
Nairobi, Kenya
Burley, ID
Farmington, NM
Syracuse, UT
Grand Junction, CO
Alabang, Philippines
Lindon, UT
Bahía Blanca, Argentina
Elko, NV
Harare, Zimbabwe
Davao, Philippines
Yorba Linda, CA
I did mean Nagano, but had not really looked at the map. If I had I would have probably went with Sendai. Although Sendai and Nagoya is also a possibility. I could see both being in the next 100 or so temple announced.
ReplyDeleteI do not expect 100 temples. I will be overjoyed and shocked if we get anything above 25.
I did mean Tacna. Southern Argentina may also be a contender.
I think I also left Otavalo, Ecuador off my list. I think Ecuador is a strong contender both Otavalo and I believe Machala. Bucaramanha Colombia and a 2nd Bogota Temple are also vague possibilities. Juchitan de Zaragoza or Tehuantepec in Mexico is another possibility. Typic, Mexico might also be a contender.
I threw out Santa Paula because I had a friend who shared my birthdate from there. However looking at the map Thousabd Oaks or Camarillo seem more likely. I am thinking you go close to the 101. So Santa Paula seems out. I think it would be called Camarillo even if not in that city's borders.
The big question is how bad is LA traffic? How far west can someone being working and still make an evening session at the LA temple? My check of maps says you evidently can get anywhere in the San Fermando Valley in about an hour or a little less from the LA Temple. So I think distance is not enough for a San Fernando Temple, so basically it is Ventura County. Ventura itself would seem to be too far west though. Camarillo or Newbury Park look the best. They might just announce it as Ventura County and then rename it based on the specific site thry find. Unless they already have a site, and anywhere from probably Thousand Oaks to Oxnard will work, depending on what can be found.
I did mean Nagano, but had not really looked at the map. If I had I would have probably went with Sendai. Although Sendai and Nagoya is also a possibility. I could see both being in the next 100 or so temple announced.
ReplyDeleteI do not expect 100 temples. I will be overjoyed and shocked if we get anything above 25.
I did mean Tacna. Southern Argentina may also be a contender.
I think I also left Otavalo, Ecuador off my list. I think Ecuador is a strong contender both Otavalo and I believe Machala. Bucaramanha Colombia and a 2nd Bogota Temple are also vague possibilities. Juchitan de Zaragoza or Tehuantepec in Mexico is another possibility. Typic, Mexico might also be a contender.
I threw out Santa Paula because I had a friend who shared my birthdate from there. However looking at the map Thousabd Oaks or Camarillo seem more likely. I am thinking you go close to the 101. So Santa Paula seems out. I think it would be called Camarillo even if not in that city's borders.
The big question is how bad is LA traffic? How far west can someone being working and still make an evening session at the LA temple? My check of maps says you evidently can get anywhere in the San Fermando Valley in about an hour or a little less from the LA Temple. So I think distance is not enough for a San Fernando Temple, so basically it is Ventura County. Ventura itself would seem to be too far west though. Camarillo or Newbury Park look the best. They might just announce it as Ventura County and then rename it based on the specific site thry find. Unless they already have a site, and anywhere from probably Thousand Oaks to Oxnard will work, depending on what can be found.
I just tried posting this and got an error message. Sorry if it becomes a double post.
Brother D., thanks for your robust temple prediction lists, but your ALL CAPS kind of hurt my brain. Incidentally, Arabic has no capital letters, but that cat hurt my brain, too. Some take the all capitalized word as YELLING, but for me it is just less suitable to the eyes, cerebral cortex. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteFort Wayne, Indiana, would be pretty amazing, I must say. As a native Hoosier, to have two temples in my state with one across the river in Louisville is quite a bit. Missouri has three? Someday maybe 24 more...
Look forward to more temples in the U.S. states that have never had a single temple. West Virginia would be amazing, WOULD IT NOT?
Other Matt here.
ReplyDeleteInstead of Ventura County (Camarillo or Thousand Oaks), as one who lives in SoCal, I see Temecula/Murrieta as the next SoCal temple, followed by Santa Maria to serve Central Coast Stakes (SLO to Santa Barbara)
Ventura County, High Desert, and Santa Clarita still heavily supports to LA Temple compared to closer stakes near the LA Temple.
I think the liability issues is exactly why the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has emphasized the BYU medical school will be focused on teaching, not on doing medical procedures. It is also probably the main reason why the Church is not going to try to create a medical school connected to the university.
ReplyDeleteThat said, the stated reason for donating the hospitals to a newly created organization (IHC) was to allow the Church to better serve the medical needs of the worldwide membership. With gathering no longer being a physical thing, only having a health system in Utah and maybe a few other western US states made no sense at all.
The other option would have been to hugely increase the spending to create a world-wide network of hospitals as the 7th Day Adventists do. However it was felt that targeted aid and instruction to medical workers in existing places would be more helpful.
This has seemed to work fairly well. By not creating a new medical system in Provo this will allow the BYU medical faculty to have time to better support the system worldwide.
This has lead me to wonder if it would be possible to have satelite educational branches of the BYU medical school worldwide. That might be a bit ambitious and difficult. However President Nelson in the early 1980s was a visting medical instructor for short periods of time (maybe 2 months at most) in China, Uruguay and I believe also Chile. Working out arrangements where the BYU Medical staff do this will also be very helpful. It will allow the knowledge to spread more, and allow them to better prepare students for the needs of health care on a global scale.
I am sure that the financials on this med school have been run and that it is clear that it will be creatable. A slightly harder issue is getting the staff, but I think that will be doable.
I think a Charleston, West Virginia temple is doable. It would take in Charleston, Huntington and I the stake that is Morgan something. The eastern panhandle would still go to Winchester Virginia Temple once that is done (most likely before a Charleston West Virginia Temple, even if Charleston is announced in October). The northern phahandle would still go to Pittsburgh. I think though there might be a part of south-eastern Ohio and far eastern Kentucky where that would be the closest temple though. It would very much help during the winter.
Here's my top 30 locations for October 2024:
ReplyDeleteCorrientes/Resistencia Argentina
Neuquen Argentina
Flagstaff/Prescott Valley Arizona
Pelotas Brazil
Sorocaba Brazil
Osorno Chile area
Daloa/Gagnoa/Yamoussoukro Côte d'Ivoire
Santiago Dominican Republic
Machala Ecuador
Quevedo Ecuador
Santa Ana El Salvador
Nampa Idaho
Milan Italy
Aguascalientes Mexico
Poza Rica Mexico
Reynosa Mexico
Abuja Nigeria
Ibadan Nigeria
Port Harcourt Nigeria
Uyo Nigeria
Chimbote Perú
Tacna Perú
Angeles Philippines
Quezon City Philippines area
Bo Sierra Leone
Lomé Togo
Kampala Uganda
Mapleton/Spanish Fork/Springville Utah
Barcelona/Puerto La Cruz Venezuela
Milwaukee Wisconsin
Also a link to my spreadsheet, where you can find my 'Next 50' and 'Less Likely' lists as well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16fEj-5hfS38I50UUu_37kSZ9KyGRoukjeUBn-vwkcSo/edit?usp=sharing
they created servel new stakes in new mexico and deleware
ReplyDeleteDo you have information on these new stakes? Looking on the map, the 2 Delaware stakes don't have enough wards to support another stake unless several new wards popped up. For New Mexico, I can see the potential for possibly 3 new stakes in Farmington, Albuquerque, and Las Cruces, though both Farmington and Las Cruces would need at least one additional ward each to have the necessary amount to split.
ReplyDeleteDid you mean several new wards created in those states?
Dover stake just closed a ward, and has gone in its twelve years from six wards and two branches, to five wards. Basically, Harrington Ward has stood pat. Dover 1st Ward and 2nd Branch realigned to become Dover Ward and Camden Ward, but this year Dover Ward was divided between Smyrna and Camden wards. Along the way, Cambridge Branch was divided between Seaford Ward and Kent Island Branch, while the two Salisbury wards became one again.
DeleteIt would not surprise me if Annapolis stake gave Dover stake Kent Island Branch at some point, in hopes of creating another unit on the Eastern Shore (which could possibly be a third go at a Cambridge Branch.) Kent Island Branch covers a significant amount of territory on the peninsula, at one point going up to the Delaware line, but meets in a smallish building on Kent Island itself.
Meanwhile, Wilmington stake has gone from six geographic wards, a Spanish branch, and a YSA branch, to five geographic wards, a Spanish ward, the YSA branch, Spanish group (in Oxford, PA), and a city group (in Wilmington).
I'm not sure when the Spanish group formed and I don't know what is going to eventually happen with it. The stake president who was released in June had a goal for that group to grow into a city branch but it would need much more local priesthood than currently attends the group's sacrament meeting.
Jonathon F. While comparing your updated October list, I think you can delete "West Valley City Utah" from your less likely list on the document. If I'm not mistaken. Wasn't there a West Valley Utah Temple announced in a recent conference and a site announced near the Bingham Open Pit Copper Mine?
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great suggestions of more likely and less likely new candidates.
Chris, the only Utah temples announced recently were West Jordan & Lehi. Before that, the last one that was announced was Heber Valley Utah in October 2022. There is no West Valley City Temple, at least not yet.
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ReplyDeleteThese are my 10 predictions for temple announcements on October 6:
- Kampala Uganda
- Georgetown Guyana
- Cuiaba Brazil
- Santa Maria Brazil
- Petropolis (or Teresopolis) Brazil
- Longmont Texas
- Scotch Plains (or northern) New Jersey
- Madison Wisconsin
- Mapleton Utah
- Price Utah
Petrópolis is something I hadn't imagined, but it makes sense... I still believe that Sorocaba and Santa Maria come before Cuiabá. Maybe even São Paulo South
DeleteThank you, James S., for reminding me. I had confused the West Jordan and West Valley locations. I appreciate it. I will add West Valley City to my list again. The 2 names are similar and also very close together in the valley.
ReplyDeleteWest Jordan Utah is between Taylorsville, where Elder Gong dedicated a temple in June, and South Jordan, where Jordan River and Oquirrh Mountain Temples are. That is going north to South.
ReplyDeleteThe thing is that going east to west across the area you have the Jordan River Temple. Then further north Taylorsville, then down south Oquirrh Mountain almost exactly where Jordan River is north to South than further north the West Jordan, although that is South of Taylorsville. Further east you have the Salt Lake Temple significantly north of all of these and the Draper Temple South of all.
Salt Lake City goes essentially as far west as West Jordan,however it's western side mainly has the airport, industrial and vacant land. At least if we are talking west of the I-215.
Whereas West Jordan and South Jordan pretty much sweep across the west side, with Sany and Midvale on the east, Taylorsville has Kearns to its west, and then West Valley city west of that, although West Valley City also goes along the whole north side of Taylorsville and Kearns.This means that some of West Valley City will be closer to West Jordan Temple, but much of it remains closer to Taylorsville.
I had been hoping to compare my extended list with the info Chris D had share this weekend but looks like I waited too long. I managed to get through the Americas earlier and even most of my more remote possibilities were somewhere on a list. The only one that I can recall for sure was the remote possibility of an eventual Temple in Cap-Haitien, Haiti if there can be sufficient growth in the nation. While Haiti is not terribly large, a Temple in the north would still reduce travel costs and allow people to avoid Port-au-Prince which, sadly, anytime there is upheaval in the country, is the focal point.
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Craig H., If you missed my complete list of Potential New Temple announcements that I had posted a few days ago, before I deleted them, due to a comment that the way I write the PROPER NAMES in all caps is difficult to read.
ReplyDeleteHere is a direct viewable link to my Excel spreadsheet database called "LDS Stakes (2024)". The full list (and yes, still in ALL CAPS script) can be found under the tab titled "Future" and color coded by the 4 sections I had posted earlier here in detail.
You are welcome to download and copy the database. I had shared it earlier here a similar link.
https://1drv.ms/x/s!As_DA0WaWLkdheAjUMTmxLZWxZlRig?e=yxOXb7
Craig H, I would also love to see your extended list and compare your list with mine. I have just added about 20 new locations from Jonathon F.'s list. And updating my Google maps with the same.
ReplyDeleteChris D, the following is my extended list. It is arranged, roughly, on a geographic basis.
DeleteOttawa, Ontario, Canada
Everett, Washington, USA
Lancaster, California, USA
Thousand Oaks, California, USA
Menifee or Temecula, California, USA
Henderson, Nevada, USA
Rigby, Idaho, USA
Ammon, Idaho, USA
Blackfoot, Idaho, USA
Caldwell, Idaho, USA
Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, USA
Bridger Valley or Evanston, Wyoming, USA
Cheyenne, Wyoming
Garland or Tremonton, Utah, USA
Hyrum or Nibley, Utah, USA
Farmington or Kaysville, Utah, USA
Kanesville or West Haven, Utah, USA
Pleasant View or North Ogden, Utah, USA
North Salt Lake, Utah, USA
Magna, Utah, USA
Holladay, Utah, USA
Sandy, Utah, USA
Herriman, Utah, USA
Alpine or Highland, Utah, USA
Orem, Utah, USA (2)
Mapleton, Spanish Fork or Springville, Utah, USA
Roosevelt, Utah
Price, Utah, USA
Monroe or Richfield, Utah, USA
Hurricane or La Verkin, Utah, USA
Prescott, Arizona, USA
Flagstaff, Arizona, USA
Mesa, Arizona, USA (2)
Queen's Creek or San Tan Valley, Arizona, USA
Las Cruces, New Mexico or El Paso, Texas, USA
Sioux Falls or Rapid City, South Dakota, USA
Monroe or Shreveport, Louisiana, USA
Jackson, Mississippi, USA
Green Bay or Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
Maine, New Hampshire or Vermont, USA
East Brunswick, New Jersey, USA
Woodbridge, Virginia, USA
Savannah, Georgia, USA
Mexico City, Mexico (3)
Tehuecan, Mexico
Reynosa or Matamoros, Mexico
Morelia or Uruapan, Mexico
Poza Rica or Papantla, Mexico
Coatzacoalcos, México
Juchitan, Mexico
Villa Nueva, Guatemala
Ahuachapan or Santa Ana, El Salvador
Choluteca, Honduras
Chinandega or Leon, Nicaragua
Cap-Haitien, Haiti
Santiago, Dominican Republic
The Lesser Antilles
Maturin, Venezuela
Medellin, Colombia
Machala, Ecuador
Ambato or Quevado, Ecuador
Chimbote, Peru
La Merced or Cerro de Pasco, Peru
Lima, Peru (3)
Pisco, Peru
Tacna, Peru
Sucre or Tarija, Bolivia
La Serena or Coquimbo, Chile
Curico or Talca, Chile
Temuco, Chile
Santiago, Chile (3)
Osorno, Chile
Comodoro Rivendavia, Argentina
Neuquen, Argentina
Resistencia, Argentina
Tucuman, Argentina
Artigas or Rivera, Uruguay
Ciudad del Este, Paraguay
Rio Branco, Acre or Porto Velho, Brazil
Santa Maria, Brazil
Culaba or Campo Grande, Brazil
Ponta Grossa, Brazil
Sorocaba, Brazil
Aracatuba, Brazil
Petropolis or Teresopolis, Brazil
Bo, Sierra Leone
Gagnoa, Daloa or Yamoussoukro, Ivory Coast
Cotonou, Benin or Lome, Togo
Abuja, Nigeria
Port Harcourt, Nigeria
Ibadan, Nigeria
Uyo, Nigeria
Enugu or Onitsha, Nigeria
Owerri, Nigeria
Likasi, Democratic Republic of the Congo
Gqeberha, South Africa
Kampala, Uganda
Grenada or Cadiz, Spain
Milan, Italy
Taichung City, Taiwan
Sendai, Japan
Baguio, Phillipines
Angeles, Phillipines
Olangopo, Phillipines
Caloocan, Phillipines
Batangas, Phillipines
Oroquieta, Phillipines
Darwin, Australia
Hobart, Australia
Marshall Islands
Craig H
Ryan the new stakes are in
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I am thinking a Mesquite Temple is doable.This might be 5 stakes depending on how the distances align for Panaca Stake. That is enough to get a temple, but the distances from Mesquite to St. George and from Logandale to the north east corner of greater Las Vegas Las Vegas Temple probably do not put this super high on the list of places that need a temple. Especially since we are talking of an area where most member families have vehicles. It is a different story on vehicle access, road travability and cost to go to the temple in a place like Likasi, DR Congo.
ReplyDeleteThe 2:00 PM hour is nearly concluded, and the Church has not announced any major temple construction updates yet. Therefore, I assume we won't be getting such an announcement this week. My thanks once again to you all.
ReplyDeleteDespite the lack of a major temple construction announcement today, the Church Temples site does share an interesting update on the Cleveland Ohio Temple, which indicates that it will be another that uses the modular components. I think we can take this as an indication that temples of a similar or identical size (10,000 square feet or so) may use modular components as well. My thanks once again to you all.
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