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here to access the updated Reaching the Nations country profile for Spain. The Church in Spain has achieved significant membership growth during the past three decades. Today, there are more Latter-day Saints on Church records in Spain than in any other European country with the exception of the United Kingdom. Nevertheless, the number of congregations in Spain has not noticeably changed in approximately there decades even though Church membership has increased by 160%. The greatest progress that has occurred in recent decades has been the organization of many new stakes and the maturation of branches into wards due to augmentation in the number of active members. Nevertheless, the Church in Spain continues to struggle to sustainably expand its national outreach. See below for the Future Prospects section of this article:
The Church has significantly reduced its outreach in Spain since the mid-2000s as indicated by the closure of three of the prior five missions, the consolidation of approximately two dozen branches (many of which were the only branches that operated in a city), the closure of the Spain MTC, and the reduction of the full-time missionary force to less than half its prior level. With fewer full-time missionaries, low member activity rates, small Latter-day Saint family sizes, and increasing secularism and disinterest in organized religion among the Spanish population, the Church faces significant challenges in expanding national outreach for the long-term. Greater breakthroughs with the native Spaniard population and improved member activity rates are needed to sustain long-term growth. Nevertheless, the Church in Spain continues to report steady annual membership growth rates (i.e. 2-3%) and moderate convert retention levels (slightly more than 50% for one year after baptism). Notwithstanding this finding, the Church in Spain operated fewer official congregations in early 2020 (138) than it did nearly thirty years ago in 1991 (144) even though Church membership has increased by approximately 160%. Local Church leaders must undertake an active role in the promotion of effective member-missionary strategies and laying the groundwork to organize new congregations in lesser-reached or unreached areas within their stakes and congregations to help reverse the longstanding trend of stagnant congregational growth and better reach the Spanish population before societal conditions may further worsen and result in even more diminished receptivity to the Latter-day Saint gospel message.
When my grandfather was president of the Spain Las Palmas Mission from 1999-2003, they had hundreds of baptisms per quarter, yet very few people have stayed in the church to this day. This is evidenced in part by the fact that there is only one stake operating on all of the islands. I truly hope mission and unit leaders can outreach to non and less actives.
ReplyDeleteSorry to hijack this thread, but does anyone know why the Shanghai China Temple has been removed from the official list of temples?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/temples/list?lang=eng
Ohhappy-- It was never there to begin with, to my knowledge. No official word on why that is, though I assume it is because the church feels like less perpetual publicity would be better for getting it operational.
ReplyDeleteNow, your question has led to an interesting discovery: there were questions that referenced the temple on https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/China, but those seem to have indeed been removed.
Two thoughts. First, keep in mind temple building can take a while even when announced. See, for instance, Salt Lake, Kiev, Accra. So even if this temple takes a while, it doesn't mean the project is abandoned. Second, no need to apologize for hijacking this thread-- these threads are seen universally as a pretty open forum, and you were absolutely within the topics typically allowed.
There are other examples of temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints taking a long time.
DeleteLos Angekes was announced in the 1930s but not completed until the 1950s. Guayaquil Ecuador took something like 1982 to 1999 and Bogota Columbia 1984 to 1998. Rome Italy took from 2008 until 2019 but much more of that was building time than in other examples. Urdeneta Phillippines was announced in 2010 and still is not done.
"The Mormon church's century-long mission to crack China
ReplyDeleteBy James Griffiths, CNN
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-mormon-church-s-century-long-mission-to-crack-china/ar-BB158I8q?ocid=msedgntp
I am tired of the failure of news media to even try to refer to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in a correct or appropriate way.
DeleteWell, it seems the CNN article, while interesting and very well-written, led church leaders to further downplay their plans for a Shanghai temple on the church website.
ReplyDeleteAlso the location of the officially recognized 4 English speaking (International for foreigners) church Districts in the P.R.C. on Church Maps site have been removed.
ReplyDeletehttps://classic.churchofjesuschrist.org/maps/#ll=33.469062,107.286815&z=4&m=google.hybrid&layers=stakecenter&q=Beijing%20China%20International%20District%20(English)&find=stake.english:617989
https://classic.churchofjesuschrist.org/maps/#ll=33.473237,107.286169&z=4&m=google.hybrid&layers=stakecenter&q=Central%20China%20International%20District%20(English)&find=stake.english:1811797
https://classic.churchofjesuschrist.org/maps/#ll=33.473237,107.286169&z=4&m=google.hybrid&layers=stakecenter&q=Shanghai%20China%20International%20District%20(English)&find=stake.english:559431
https://classic.churchofjesuschrist.org/maps/#ll=33.473237,107.286169&z=4&m=google.hybrid&layers=stakecenter&q=Shenzhen%20China%20International%20District%20(English)&find=stake.english:1811789
Here is the direct link to the CNN article in full.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/asia/mormon-church-latter-day-saints-china-intl-hnk/index.html
As far as the Church and a temple in Shanghai is concerned, here's what I know: Long ago, due in part to his efforts in saving the life of a prominent Chinese opera star (which, being then-Elder Nelson's final operation as a heart surgeon, was done roughly a year after his ordination to the apostleship), he (Elder Nelson) was given the honorary designation of "old friend ofeChina". I do not know this for sure, but my theory is that, due in part to his efforts to learn Mandarin years before he became an apostle, he may have had more of a direct role than has been publicly acknowledged in shaping some of the policies and procedures relative to the Church and China than we might think.
ReplyDeleteInsofar as I am aware, at no point in the intervening decades has any Chinese official withdrawn that designation from now-President Nelson. But it is also true (based on my having known some individuals from China who have talked when they can about the prevailing religious regulations that are still in effect today. The Church has always had to tread carefully when it comes to China, and the Chinese government, in turn, being professed atheists, cannot appear to show any hint of favoritism or special preference to any one religion. As a result, the formation of the regulations as they currently stand make sense. But that does not, at the same time mean that either President Nelson is in error when detailing plans for the Shanghai China Temple or that the Chinese government is unaware that such an announcement has been made. If anything, it just means that, aside from President Nelson mentioning the plans, until the approval process is further along, the Church has to be careful as to what they allow to be publicly mentioned on their website that pertains to the relationship with China, while the Chinese government will likely continue to deny any knowledge of the Shanghai temple until it is either under construction as part of a multipurpose building or operating, and at that point, even then, the Chinese government will be very careful in what they say about it so as not to show any favoritism or appearance of preference to any one religion.
This situation is similar to the Church and Russia. While Church leaders are able to announce the calls and releases of any area seventies serving in Russia, the Church does not list any of the current Russian area seventies in any of their directories (by which I mean the official list for area seventies visible to everyone on the website, and in the CDOL as avaialble to designated Church leaders). There is wisdom in such practices, with the CHurch emphasizing a desire toz be good neighbors and citizens in all such situations. Hope this information, such as it is, might be helpful to all who read this comment.
FWIW, Michael Worley was correct in his earlier comment: Following the announcement of the 8 new temples in April, only 7 appeared on the official list. Shanghai never was and likely never will be on that official list unless and until things change in the relationship between the Church and China, or in the approach of the Chinese governement regarding religious practices.
ReplyDeleteChina's recent actions limiting autonomy in Hong Kong could be a factor here, too. When Pres. Nelson announced the Shanghai Temple, he said it would be for PRC citizens only, not for tourists.
ReplyDeleteHe also mentioned that the Hong Kong Temple is currently closed for renovation. I'm wondering if the Church will downplay the reopening of the Hong Kong Temple out of an abundance of caution.
Missing from your report on the Church in Spain is that Juan Subirats Ventura was the first Spanish citizen baptized in the 20th century. He joined the Church in France in 1952 because it was illegal to do so in Spain at the time.
ReplyDeleteHe married Betty Gibbs, the secretary at Church headquarters in Salt Lake who sent him pamphlets and other materials when he and his brother Jordi wrote requesting more information.
I knew Brother and Sister Ventura quite well in Barcelona during my mission from late 1976 to late 1978. They were a tremendous asset to the work of the Church.
You can read more about Juan Ventura and his life dedicated to the gospel in his 2008 obituary published here: https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/deseretnews/obituary.aspx?pid=113404885
Brother Juan Ventura's obituary, referenced above, styles his name as "Juan Subirats Ventura". However, after consulting FamilySearch, I see that Subirats is his maternal last name. Therefore his correct birth name was Juan Ventura Subirats.
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting to note that after his 1952 baptism in France, he returned to Spain where "...he had a group of 40 that was studying the Church in Barcelona. Because of this, he was arrested and beaten severely for four days. Upon his release from prison he fled to France." (Obituary, referenced above.)
While in France, he married Sister Betty Gibbs in 1954.
My wife and I have heard the Venturas relate these stories on several occasions, personally and in small groups.
Not only was he the first convert to the Church from Spain in the modern era, he was willing to risk teaching the gospel to friends and neighbors during Franco's dictatorship when it was prohibited to promote any religion but Catholicism.
Let's give Brother Juan Ventura credit for being at the forefront of the work in the Kingdom of Spain.
What is your current guesstimate as to the number of members and congregations in Russia?
ReplyDeleteWhat is your current guesstimate as to the number of members and congregations in Russia?
ReplyDelete3 stakes (Moscow, St. Petersburg, Saratov) and 9 districts (Irkutsk, Moscow, Novosibirisk, Rostov-na-Donu, Samara, Simferopol, Vladivostok, Volvograd, Yekaterinburg). Matt's statistical page for Russia estimates that in 2018, there were 23,300 members and 97 units (17 wards, 80 branches). Hope this helps :)
ReplyDeleteMy high school Spanish teacher in Maryland served his mission in Spain.
ReplyDeleteLatest temple updates: More than half of Church’s temples in limited reopening as 12 more to start Phase 1
ReplyDeletehttps://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2020-06-08/lds-temples-open-worldwide-phased-reopening-183918
Spain at its peak had 5 missions, I think. Canaries, Malaga (Sevilla), Madrid, Bilbao, and Barcelona. It is paired down at present.
ReplyDeleteIs it just my computer or all, that you can only access the Classic Maps site since yesterday by logging in with LDSaccount? No longer the site available to non members?
ReplyDeletehttps://classic.churchofjesuschrist.org/maps/
Through a company called ForgeRock Access Management? Or has my computer been hacked?
@Chris
ReplyDeleteYes I have to login too, to access classic maps.
There have been widespread, planned changes on various Church sites within the last little while, the biggest was today when they did a big revamp of the name reservation system on Family Tree. Someone said that while working at home, many employees of the Church have actually gotten more productive.
ReplyDeleteOn hacking, the U of U did get phished.
There is a big fire burning just northeast of the Tucson Temple, the fire is the Bighorn Fire, photos shared on social media show it close enough to be one of the more spectacular fire behind a temple shots. Last I saw the fire is moving east, away from the temple but still lights up things somewhat.
I can't find the changes to name reservations. Where is the article?
ReplyDelete@Free_Walburg: no 'article' about it yet.
ReplyDeleteTwo key changes: The set up displayed in FamilySearch Temple tab; The new 'order' of sending names from the general Temple file (shared names) to the Temples
The set up displayed in FamilySearch Temple reservations: On familysearch.org click the Temple tab/select: My Reservations or Shared in dropdown. That will show you how it is set up now.
Bottom Line: Way easier to use/sort – NOTE: colors are changed. Example change: Green tiles.
Green still means 'Go' - that the name is ready for Temple work BUT it now includes names 'shared' by others to the general Temple file. [Shared names used to be marked with Red Tiles] This upgrade makes it instantly easy to harvest and do that person's work. No need to contact the creator of the record to request a handoff. Just click - print & take.
The 'My Reservations' section are names you have reserved to continue working on
The 'Shared' section is just that - the names you reserved and then Shared to the general Temple file.
The tile colors have changed and reduced from 'many' to 4 types
Smoke grey: Completed; Green: Request (needs Temple work); Blue: In Progress (someone or Temple has printed); Orange: Cannot Request (person's record has data or other issues)
Key to sorting the list are the improved 'Filters' - a real time saver - but an option to sort by male/female cards would help - maybe next time
The new 'order' of sending names to the Temples
I don't know if this feature has also been released - but was told that it is part of the release that is currently being worked on. Here's what it will do: When it does release - it will change the flow of names sent to the Temples.
Currently: 'basically' when you share a name to the general Temple file it goes to YOUR Temple. It is only pulled and sent to another Temple if the need for that ordinance is urgently needed by another Temple - otherwise it sits in your Temple's holding tank waiting to be pulled up by the Temple in their 'daily lists'. In effect there are 168 +/- separate reservoirs of 'shared' names. With the 'new' release this will change. There will be only ONE general Temple file dispensing names to all Temples - with a set aside for non-Western alphabets - so that those cards are channeled to target Temples in Korea, Japan etc. Even those cards can still go to any Temple when the need is urgent for a particular ordinance.
Cards are routinely printed in multiple languages - so a Chinese language card could be simultaneously printed in both Chinese & French or Chinese & Spanish - depending on the need of that Temple.
The other key upgrade is that ALL shared cards in the 'new' all-in-one Temple file reservoir will be sorted in order of the original date the card was shared. The cards waiting the longest (oldest cards submitted) will now be sent to Temples first. That is an important change.
Bottom Line: Members living in and submitting/sharing cards in a 'busy' Temple district would see their cards processed fairly quickly. Members living in a smaller Temple district with more limited attendance/sessions could see their shared cards wait for years to be completed. Now the pace of the completion of their 'shared' cards is not dependent on the pace of their local Temple. It also means that cards that stalled in the system and were in effect 'stuck' will get back on track with the new reording of the flow.
These are important improvements. It's all good.
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
ReplyDeleteRegarding changes to the temple file made on 11 June 2020 on FamilySearch, I do not like that the nine colors were "dumbed-down" to four colors. With nine colors, I knew at a glance the status of every ordinance for every individual or couple. Now, it's impossible to know fully, without hovering the mouse over each name and ordinance, what is going on with each one.
ReplyDeleteAdditionally, the full name of the person in the temple file cannot be read at times except for hovering over each one. After the first few characters, the rest of the name is truncated. How is that helpful? It is not!
In my opinion, the interface is clunky. There was no need to redesign what was working so well. It's as if the software engineers don't use the temple file on FamilySearch at all or for more than a handful of names and don't fully understand the product from the users' point of view.
The old interface should never have been tinkered with. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" This is what happens when people have too much time on their hands. Wasted resources and an inferior product that is a great leap backward and craves a solution.
I've already contacted FamilySearch to ask that the old interface (which again worked so well) be made available to those of us who want it with a button to revert to the nine-color functionality, along with a suggestion to trash the new interface entirely.
@David Tilton I agree whole-heartedly. When I started getting into family history 8ish years ago, I learned on the old system. It was easy to use, took me a few minutes to memorize the key symbols, and I have been delighted in using it ever since. When I logged in after the change took place, I was horrified. Call me stubborn, but this new interface is more confusing and unhelpful than any old system was. I hope they change it back, too.
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