I think there is a typo in the section on GPD. The numbers suggest the average Seventh-day Adventist congregation in the country has about 20 members. That is super small.
I wonder if there is a chance that the Bhutabese Nepalis who have joined the Church in the US coyld spread the gospel back in Bhutan.
No this number is correct. Most of the congregations for Seventh-Day Adventists in Bhutan are companies which are very small congregation or congregations that have been recently established.
Is there even a branch closer to Bhutan than Kolkatta? West Bengal alone has 91 million residents and just 1 branch. Uttar Pradesh with almost 200 million residents may have no branch at all.
Well, one of the wards in the Delhi stake extends into a small part of the west end of Uttar Pradesh. Still the state has many cities with millions no where near a branch. Then one comes to Bihar with 103 million people and 0 branches. To the west there are states like Gujarat with 60 milluon people and no branches. Rajasthan the largest state by area in India has 68 million people and no branches. Its largest city of Jaipur has a population of 3 million. By area Rajasthan is a little smaller than California but with twice the population. Much of Bhutan's border is with Assam that has 31 million people and no branches. All this adds up to lots of outreach potential that makes Bhutan an unnoticed blip.
Overall northeast India has 7.8 million Christians based on 2011 data. Thos is,not as high a,number as in southern India, which is where most stakes are. However they are a,much higher part of the population. On the other hand southern India has Christian communities that data back at least to AD 300, had significant Catholic missionay activity from the 16th century on, and was where Protestant missionaries first began their work in India in the 18th-century. Northeast India largely began Christian as a result of missionary work from 1931-1951 although missionaries were present from the 1830s. That still is over a century after the start of Protestant missionary work coastal southern India.
To give some perspective Bangalore where the temple will be built in India is the sight of a Catholic archdiocese. The,Archdiocese has over 400,000 Catholics. Its,history is complex but it essentially dates to the 1840s with Catholic missionaries there much sooner.
The Portuguese spread Christianity based in Diu and Goa back in the 1500s. Then they made it to Macao, Japan, Indonesia, etcetera. Jesuits, I believe. Some Franciscan Spaniards may have gone with them. I know Kerala Indians that claim that the apostle Thomas made it to that state. I guess Bengaluru (?) is the modern Mumbai, Chennai spelling of this dynamic city, like those name adaptations. Mosul, Iraq was Ninevah, or Istanbul, etcetra. I wonder how many Indians abroad have become LDS? I do not know many. Loudoun County Virginia has a significant south Asian population; Sterling has a movie theatre that caters to Bollywood and other Indian films. Crickett can be seen played on many ball fields.
I knew an LDS student at BYU who was from Ahmenabad, the capitol of Gujarat. I am not sure how he came to join the Church.
When I was in the Sterling Heighrts Ward we had a sister from India baptized. She was Hindu before being baptized. On the other hand her husband was a member who had joined in India, although he was basically raised in the Church.
We had another family from India, Chennai to be exact. They joined the Church there and their families had been Christians hundreds of years.
I know when my Mom was at BYU the deoartment head for Math was a native of India who would later be the first mission president there.
For a time Mali's ambassador to India was an LDS man with an Indian wife. They met in the US possibly at BYU.
I believe the Church has a Hindi-soeaking unit of some sort in British Columbia.
In the gospel principals manual there is a picture of an Indian man with his scriptures praying. This brother was a counselor in the Fiji Temple Presidency.
I srmtrongly suspect there are members of Indian descent in Britain, although maybe not as many as of Nigerian descent.
I know of people from the UK with ties to India, yes. I dont like to discuss direct individual people on here because you never know who may be reading and not appreciate being talked about. I have seen people on this blog comment about individuals in their ward or neighboring wards that from their detailed descriptions and the small nature of the church, I know well and I found it a bit unsettling, even if it was in good intention.
The math professor in and ofitself is a major story. About ten years ago he went back and found a treasure trove of ancestral names and while he said it was not all that were findable, the load came in at over 100k names and it was all submitted for temple work and left for patrons. We spent months collectively doing the endowments for a large part of that.
A smaller load came in about the same time and was from someone else. One early date was 745 AD and the parent was the end of line, from 705 AD.
I think there is a typo in the section on GPD. The numbers suggest the average Seventh-day Adventist congregation in the country has about 20 members. That is super small.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if there is a chance that the Bhutabese Nepalis who have joined the Church in the US coyld spread the gospel back in Bhutan.
No this number is correct. Most of the congregations for Seventh-Day Adventists in Bhutan are companies which are very small congregation or congregations that have been recently established.
DeleteIs there even a branch closer to Bhutan than Kolkatta? West Bengal alone has 91 million residents and just 1 branch. Uttar Pradesh with almost 200 million residents may have no branch at all.
ReplyDeleteWell, one of the wards in the Delhi stake extends into a small part of the west end of Uttar Pradesh. Still the state has many cities with millions no where near a branch. Then one comes to Bihar with 103 million people and 0 branches. To the west there are states like Gujarat with 60 milluon people and no branches. Rajasthan the largest state by area in India has 68 million people and no branches. Its largest city of Jaipur has a population of 3 million. By area Rajasthan is a little smaller than California but with twice the population. Much of Bhutan's border is with Assam that has 31 million people and no branches. All this adds up to lots of outreach potential that makes Bhutan an unnoticed blip.
ReplyDeleteOverall northeast India has 7.8 million Christians based on 2011 data. Thos is,not as high a,number as in southern India, which is where most stakes are. However they are a,much higher part of the population. On the other hand southern India has Christian communities that data back at least to AD 300, had significant Catholic missionay activity from the 16th century on, and was where Protestant missionaries first began their work in India in the 18th-century. Northeast India largely began Christian as a result of missionary work from 1931-1951 although missionaries were present from the 1830s. That still is over a century after the start of Protestant missionary work coastal southern India.
ReplyDeleteTo give some perspective Bangalore where the temple will be built in India is the sight of a Catholic archdiocese. The,Archdiocese has over 400,000 Catholics. Its,history is complex but it essentially dates to the 1840s with Catholic missionaries there much sooner.
ReplyDeleteThere was Catholic missionary presence in the areas to the south of Madras as early as the 1660s.
ReplyDeleteThe Portuguese spread Christianity based in Diu and Goa back in the 1500s. Then they made it to Macao, Japan, Indonesia, etcetera. Jesuits, I believe. Some Franciscan Spaniards may have gone with them.
ReplyDeleteI know Kerala Indians that claim that the apostle Thomas made it to that state.
I guess Bengaluru (?) is the modern Mumbai, Chennai spelling of this dynamic city, like those name adaptations.
Mosul, Iraq was Ninevah, or Istanbul, etcetra.
I wonder how many Indians abroad have become LDS? I do not know many. Loudoun County Virginia has a significant south Asian population; Sterling has a movie theatre that caters to Bollywood and other Indian films. Crickett can be seen played on many ball fields.
I knew an LDS student at BYU who was from Ahmenabad, the capitol of Gujarat. I am not sure how he came to join the Church.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was in the Sterling Heighrts Ward we had a sister from India baptized. She was Hindu before being baptized. On the other hand her husband was a member who had joined in India, although he was basically raised in the Church.
We had another family from India, Chennai to be exact. They joined the Church there and their families had been Christians hundreds of years.
I know when my Mom was at BYU the deoartment head for Math was a native of India who would later be the first mission president there.
For a time Mali's ambassador to India was an LDS man with an Indian wife. They met in the US possibly at BYU.
ReplyDeleteI believe the Church has a Hindi-soeaking unit of some sort in British Columbia.
In the gospel principals manual there is a picture of an Indian man with his scriptures praying. This brother was a counselor in the Fiji Temple Presidency.
I srmtrongly suspect there are members of Indian descent in Britain, although maybe not as many as of Nigerian descent.
I know of people from the UK with ties to India, yes. I dont like to discuss direct individual people on here because you never know who may be reading and not appreciate being talked about. I have seen people on this blog comment about individuals in their ward or neighboring wards that from their detailed descriptions and the small nature of the church, I know well and I found it a bit unsettling, even if it was in good intention.
ReplyDeleteThe math professor in and ofitself is a major story. About ten years ago he went back and found a treasure trove of ancestral names and while he said it was not all that were findable, the load came in at over 100k names and it was all submitted for temple work and left for patrons. We spent months collectively doing the endowments for a large part of that.
ReplyDeleteA smaller load came in about the same time and was from someone else. One early date was 745 AD and the parent was the end of line, from 705 AD.