Friday, March 21, 2025

Two New Branches Created in the Central African Republic (CAR); First Young Full-time Missionaries to be Assigned to the CAR

In a major development, the Church has organized two new branches—Bangui 2nd and Bangui 3rd—in the capital and most populous city of the Central African Republic (CAR), Bangui, where a single branch has operated since 1993. This marks the first time in over 30 years that more than one congregation has functioned in the country. During the 2000s and early 2010s, mission presidents visited the isolated branch approximately once every two to three years. In October 2012, Apostle Elder Jeffrey R. Holland dedicated the CAR for missionary work, just two months after the Church received provisional recognition from the government. Plans to assign full-time missionaries to Bangui were ultimately canceled after the mission president at the time felt spiritually impressed not to proceed with the assignment, despite approval from the Area Presidency. Weeks later, rebel forces captured the city.

The Church briefly operated a second branch in Bangui in the early 1990s; however, the two congregations were soon consolidated into a single unit. The CAR was initially under the jurisdiction of the Ivory Coast Abidjan Mission, but in 2005, administrative responsibility shifted to the newly created Ghana Cape Coast Mission. Oversight was transferred shortly thereafter to the Democratic Republic of the Congo Kinshasa Mission. In 2014, the country was reassigned to the newly organized Republic of Congo Brazzaville Mission, and in 2020, it was transferred to the Cameroon Yaoundé Mission. The creation of the Africa Central Area in 2020, which included the CAR, signaled increased institutional focus on strengthening the Church in underreached regions of the continent.

The CAR government requires religious groups to have at least 1,000 members to formally register. As of year-end 2023, there were 278 Latter-day Saints in the country. Senior missionaries serving in the Cameroon Yaoundé Mission have reported imminent plans to assign full-time missionaries to Bangui which have either recently arrived or will soon arrive to begin more formalized missionary efforts.

The population of the CAR is approximately 5.3 million, with nearly 1.7 million residing in Bangui alone. Around 90% of the population identifies as Christian. The country has remained largely unreached for decades due to its remote location, limited accessibility from other African cities with significant Latter-day Saint populations, political instability, and historically few Church resources allocated to Central Africa. Few Church materials are currently available in Sango, the national language, which further limits member engagement and missionary outreach. In contrast to neighboring Cameroon and the Republic of the Congo—both of which have seen more consistent growth and missionary presence—the Church in the CAR remains in the early stages of development. Prospects for growth appear favorable; however, challenges such as low literacy rates, a lack of experienced local leadership, and ongoing political instability continue to pose major obstacles to long-term, sustainable Church development.

146 comments:

Anonymous said...

A wonderful development!

JTB said...

In the recent handbook changes, there is additional language regarding the contact for the creation of a language-specific stake in the US and Canada: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/general-handbook/37-specialized-stakes-wards-and-branches?lang=eng&id=title_number2-p14#title_number2
I wonder if there will be a push to create additional language-specific stakes in the near future? It seems like there has been enhanced outreach to non-English speakers in the US as of late (especially with the creation of the Spanish stakes in Utah), though unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to get the numbers on the number of non-English units in the US (as far as I know). Any thoughts as to where additional Spanish language stakes could be created?

Anonymous said...

Craig Shuler says,
Here is my list of temple predictions for April:

Delta Utah
Kanab Utah
Mapleton / Spanish Fork Utah
Evanston Wyoming
Flagstaff Arizona
Longview Texas
San Luis Obispo California
Moscow Idaho

Cuiaba Brazil
Santa Maria Brazil
Georgetown Guyana
Port-of-Spain Trinidad
Kingston Jamaica
David Panama

London England Hyde Park
Tirana Albania

Bo Sierra Leone
Ibadan Nigeria
Lome Togo or Cotonou Benin
Lusaka Zambia

Anonymous said...

Craig Shuler asks Matt M.:

When a blog chain gets too big it can't be added to, is there some way you could open a new one even if you don't have anything profound to say?

It was frustrating not being able to read or write posts from March 13 to March 21.

Anonymous said...

Curious if you are referring to the previous post? When you initially click on the post, it normally ends at about 200 comments, so the last comment by default (at least on mine) is Chris D's comment on March 13th about Zimbabwe's new temple president. Right below that should be something that says LOAD MORE, and you should be able to see more recent comments and even add to them.

Eduardo said...

Sango is the main language of CAR. I imagine that English and French are popular, perhaps more French for historic reasons? Is Sango related to Hausa or other socio-linguistic languages of Central Africa?
Of all the native African languages and dialects, (there must be a couple thousand), I feel like I know the most about Ibo. (Of the Igbo of Nigeria.)
Does anyone know if all the Sango speakers have a uniform common lingua, or are there varying dialects of it that make it harder to understand among the same countrymen?

Charleston, WV does not have many members, but a temple would be geo-friendly there, right? Meaning, a good distance for those who travel.

I heard about a buddy who is having issues with temple ceremonies. Any advice? Probably not a great forum to discuss here, but I have a blog it ideas can be shared at: https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/4265395810296354251/373167946041734764?hl=en

Chris D. said...

The new Ebimpé Cote d'Ivoire Stake has been renamed from the Agboville Cote d'Ivoire District on the Meetinghouse site today. With the 10 Branches as of this comment. And added the Attiesso Ward from the Abobo Cote d'Ivoire West Stake.

Total today : 1 Ward and 10 Branches.


https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/2074435

Danny said...

Maybe this is a hint that you should start your own blog! Treating the comments of someone else's blog as if it was your own seems a bit rude.

James G. Stokes said...

The groundbreaking ceremony for the Birmingham England Temple took place as scheduled today:

https://news-uk.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/groundbreaking-ceremony-held-for-the-birmingham-england-temple

I will just add that I don't expect that to be the only major temple construction development we will see announced on Monday. I say that because we have four temples completed and awaiting the announcement of their opening arrangements, two or three others that could potentially have groundbreakings announced soon, and two or three others that could either have exterior renderings released or groundbreakings set. And since we've seen the Church announce a site location and release an exterior rendering at the same time in the recent past, it seems likely that we could see that happening again in the near term. My thanks once again to you all.

Craig said...

A little digging states that Sango closest relative is Ngbandi. That, in turn os part of the Ubangian family of languages. It does not appear there is any close connection to Hausa. Overall, the CAR seems to have a fair amount of linguistic overlap with DRC. This could mean that once the MTC in the DRC is up and running that is will be able to provide support to efforts in the CAR.

Craig H

Daniel Moretti said...

With the completion of excavations for the expansion of the Green Line of the subway next to the temple site, I hope we finally have some news for the São Paulo East Temple.

Anonymous said...

The Kinshasa MTC appears to be up and running. Fir sure it has a president and companion assigned, and it has a manager of operations. The latter in from.Ghana.

Intital plans were to only teach in French or to teach people French.

I know right now in Tanzania The Xhurch of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints operates in Swahili. In Madagascar the Church operates in Malagasy. In Ethiopia the Church operates in Amheric, bit I still think we need to expand to Oromo.

Most other countries on the African continent operates are done in Colonial languages. I do know that the Church has moved forward with translation of scriptures in Kirawanda, the language of Rwanda. I am not sure if congregations meet in that language though.

I think the earlier we can get materials in Aango the better, but I do bot know how widely used Sango is.

Here https://www.thechurchnews.com/living-faith/2025/03/23/amos-brown-fellowship-ghana-documentary-naacp/ is a link that you can use to go to a documentary about the fellowship The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Aaints and the NAACP did taking students to Ghana. Elder Ahmad Corbitt, Elder Matthew S. Holland and Sister Tracey Broening were all there for the whole event. Or at least a large part of it. They showed the participants the film of President Nelson's address to the NAAVP in Detroit in 2019 (I was there when he gave the address). They also showed them some or all of President Hinckley's general priesthood meeting ralk when getting condemned racism.

My branch had 3 baptisms today. 2 brother from Iraq and a woman whose family is originally from Mexico City. The later is sadly about to move to Chicago. She has already met the missionaries and maybe some members in Chicago. The relief society president gave her a picture of the Detroit Temple. I did show her some pictures of the Chicago Templr.

Anonymous said...

I just did a brief check on Rwanda for you. All congregations in the Kigali Rwanda District (except the Kiyovu Branch) show Kinyarwanda as its designated language. The Kiyovu Branch and the Kigali Rwanda District itself show to be designated as English-speaking.

Nephi said...

Growth in the CAR is awesome. Can't wait for a few more branches and a district.

Anonymous said...

I’ll throw some food for thought out for all of you. I’m almost 69 years old and serve my mission to Cordoba Argentina in 1975 to 1977. At that time I was in awe because we had 19,600 full-time missionaries serving. We had a little over 1,000 stakes at that time. And the Washington DC Temple was the newest temple at the time. That was 50 years ago. The growth of the church kept steadily moving forward to where it has finally really began to snowball.
I just wondered what all of you think the church will look like 50 years from now? My older brother served his mission in Buenos Aires Argentina in the south mission and he came home in 1975, right before I left on my mission. He told me how frustrated he was in the cities of Bariloche, Necochea, and Neuquen because they knocked on every door in those towns at least two times during the time he was there and people just didn’t wanna listen. He told me that sacrament meeting attendance was anywhere from 8 to 12 and in that group 4 of them were missionaries.
Now all of you predicting a temple for Neuquen, think back 50 years to those elders who were anywhere from a 1/2 to 1/3 of the congregational attendance at sacrament meeting.
I asked my brother what he thought the difference was over all of these years. His thoughts make sense to me—He feels that it takes the agnostic older generation dying off before the younger generations start to be open-minded towards the gospel, and generally, after three or four generations of a family first being introduced to the church, their children know who the elders are and know enough about the church to where minds are more open and receptive than were those of previous generations. Anyway, it’s exciting to think about where the church will be 50 years from now!

Eduardo said...

50 years from now. 2075. I do not expect to be living, but then again since 1976 I have wanted to live till the U.S. tricentennial. My older sister, too. That would make us very old and lucky. I think.
The Gospel needs to go more nations. The Lord and His message needs to go to more nations and kingdoms, languages and kindreds. This is happening, increasingly.
When will the second happening occur? Will there be 500 temples then? One thousand? A kilo for the Millenium? Sounds good.
Thanks for your service in Argentina. I have met so many good members of the faith, and non-members from there. How about the Pope, I forgot his given name.
What new nations and tongues will develop for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the next five years, the next 10? Israel, the current land of Benjamin and Judah, mostly, is morphing as we speak.
What of China and Russia? There are Persian Church units around the world.
India? Other lands. Indonesia, still growing in our faith.
All very amazing. Le Grand Richards wrote his epic tome. I think more of us should read it and be inspired to dream more, and live out the prophecies foretold.
We all can do our parts. I served in Chile. I have gone back twice to add up to nine more months. Can we do that? Do people need a visit from you in Argentina? Is your health good enough? Can you visit some former people on social media?
Can you serve a full-time mission? My mom did at age 60, and again at age 64. She died of cancer after that, otherwise, would have likely served a third full-time mission, hastening the work.
What can we do to make the Kingdom of God grow in the next 5 years, the next 50? Stay with it. Learn, grow, adapt, preach, act, love, serve. President Nelson learned Chinese in his 50s?
Good example, him. Let us all do our parts.

Chris D. said...

Elder Jeffrey R. Holland just rededicated in one session yesterday, the Toronto Canada Temple.

https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2025/03/23/president-jeffrey-holland-rededicate-toronto-ontario-temple/

Caleb said...

A number of branches have been organized in cities that previously had no official congregations recently, in various countries around the world. This probably isn't a comprehensive list, but here's some previously unreached cities that now have a branch.

Batumi, Republic of Georgia
Morogoro, Tanzania
Iringa, Tanzania
Kenge, Democratic Republic of the Congo
Kabinda, Democratic Republic of the Congo
Lukalaba, Democratic Republic of the Congo
Kaniki, Democratic Republic of the Congo
Kanda-Kanda, Democratic Republic of the Congo
Los Llanos, Spain
Rusk, Texas, USA

Again, likely nor a comprehensive or perfect list, but as far as I can tell, all these branches are the first in their respective cities, and have been organized in the past few months.

James said...

I think this is a good comment. Another feature that would help the blog readers: have separate blog posts where the comments are dedicated toward temple-related growth news. Pretty big developments on the church growth front have come out in the last month, and they were completely ignored because everyone was inundated instead with temple predictions (which is fine, but it could use its own section).

Anonymous said...

Interesting. The Batumi Branch on the Meetinghouse Locator (no chapel marker) shows it is designated as Armenian-speaking. This means that Georgia's 3 branches are each in different languages. 1 English, 1 Georgian, 1 Armenian.

Johnathan Reese Whiting said...

@JPL (in case you haven't seen this yet, thought you'd be interested):

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has released a 40-minute documentary highlighting the experiences of 24 young Americans who spent 10 days in West Africa learning to become ambassadors of racial harmony as part of the Amos C. Brown Fellowship to Ghana, an initiative powered by the
@NAACP
in collaboration with the Church of Jesus Christ."

https://x.com/Ch_JesusChrist/status/1903820625300586594

Chris D. said...

Here is another link on the Church News site :

https://www.thechurchnews.com/living-faith/2025/03/23/amos-brown-fellowship-ghana-documentary-naacp/

Jonathon F. said...

The Church just announced plans for the dedication of the Farmington New Mexico Temple (August 17, 2025) as well as groundbreakings for the Natal Brazil, Benin City Nigeria, Lagos Nigeria, and Budapest Hungary Temples.

Notably, other than the planned temples for Russia, which presumably won't be possible any time in the near future, Lagos Nigeria was *by far* the temple that had been announced the longest without a groundbreaking date. In fact, other than Russia, Shanghai, and Dubai, it was the only temple announced before April 2021 that still didn't have a groundbreaking date. Not sure what the delay there was, especially since it's had a site announced since September 2023, but they're now moving forward!

https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2025/03/24/first-presidency-sets-groundbreaking-dates-4-temples-nigeria-hungary-brazil/

Noah said...

Besides the 3 you mentioned, this puts Sao Paulo East at the longest announced without a groundbreaking. I wouldn't be surprised to see a rendering released in the next few weeks, but the groundbreaking may not occur until the latter end of the year.

Anonymous said...

It has been a full weekend for temples. The Toronto Temple was redecorated by President Holland, whose ancestor George Cannon joined the Church as a result of his sister Leonora and brother-in-law John Taylor joining the church in Toronto.

The Birmingham England Temple had a ground breaking presided over by Elder Whiting.

Farmington New Mexico Temple will de dedicated in September or so with the open house starting in mid-July.

Lagos Nigeria, Benin City Nigeria Budapest Hungary and Natal Brazil all had ground breaking dates announced. If we could announced at this rate for ground breaking every week we could get the backlog down.

I think this puts Russia as the last Temple announced in 2018 to not have a ground breaking date yet.

John Pack Lambert said...

I had thought I had posted on that video here. It has quite a few good comments by both Sister Browning and Elder Corbitt, as well as Amos Brown, some other NAACP representatives, and several of the Amos Brown fellows.

There are lots of other ideas to unpack. I will maybe posy some more after I get and read "Stay Thou Nearby:Reflections on the 1978 Revelation on the priesthood". To my knowledge this is the only book on the subject co-authored by 4 writers who are all international level church leaders and all of African descent. 2 are general authorities (Elder Corbitt and Elder Dube), 1 is in the primary General Presidency and 1 is a former member of the Young Women's General advisory council (serving from 2018-2023).

John Pack Lambert said...

One question with "Stay Thou Nearby" is why stop at 4 writers? Why not have all black general Church leaders contribute?

All the answers are hard to know. The book itself might address this. There is a factor that more is not always better. A work is more impactful with a few pointed Reflections than a lot.

Actually the other question, why not just have Elder Corbitt write the whole book, is also valid. Lots of books have one author, many of the most quoted and impactful talks were giving by one speaker.

It does add to have multiple perspectives, and the 4 writers give them. Not close to all possible perspectives. All 4 writers are converts, who joined the Church between about age 15 and 22 . 3 of the 4 lived or worked part of their life in the New York metropolitan area. All 4 now live in Utah. 1 is Zimbabwean, 2 Jamaican, 1 American, although 1 of the Jamaican's was born in the US, and the other was born in Britain. Although I think Sister Lawrence-Costley has lived in the IS longer than Sister Browning. Thry both came to New Richelle in 1976, Sister Browning by birth, Sister Lawrence-Costley by movement from London. However at domestic point Sister Broening moved to Jamaica for a few years, but I believe Sister Kawrence-Costley has lived in the US continuously since 1976.

All 4 are married. Sister Lawrence-Costley was "by nearly 40" when she married, while Sister Browning was 22, Elder Corbitt at most 23, and Elder Dube maybe a little older but about that age. Elder Dube's wife is black, Elder Corbitt's wife and Sister Browning's husband are white. I am not sure about Sister Costley's husband.

All 4 also joined the Church in times and places where thry were joining congregations that were mainly white. In fact the congregation that Sister Lawrence-Costley joined in London in 1975 might have Bern the least white if the 4 congregations these 4 people joined at baptism. Although I do not actually know the ethnic composition of the congregation that Sister Briening joined in about 1994 in New Jersey, so it might be the least white. Elder Corbitt joined a congregation in Southern New Jersey (about 14 years before Sister Browning was baptized in the sane state, that besides his mom and some of his siblings had only 1 other black family.

Elder Dube when he began going to church in Zimbabwe was invited by the white family he was working as the servant for, and everyone else in the branch was white.

John Pack Lambert said...

Just one more comment on "Stay Thou Nearby". Despite similarities each writer has unique experiences

This is true of us all, but clearly true here.

While Sister Broening and Sister Lawrence-Costley lived in New Richelle in the same time, in some ways their experiences are the most different.

Likewise the fact that thry got married very close to the same time means that in some ways thry have vastly different life experi3nces. Sister Lawrence-Costley was baptized as a 15-year-old before Sister Browning was born.

On the 4 writers only Sister Kawrence-Costley was baptized before 1978.

She has a very interesting story. Although she had been meeting with the missionaries for 3 years, no one told her about the priesthood and temple restrictions until the night before her baptism. On one hand this seems odd to me, on the other as a missionary I am not sure we ever discussed it. Of course I was a missionary in 2000-2002 when it was in the past, but I think maybe there is a way it needs yo be discussed. Some of the attempts to explain it are so off I can see we people avoid it.

I know some try to analogies it to the Levites holding the priesthood. Darius Gray thinks this is a down right horrible analogy, because the priesthood being restricted to one small group is very different than it being open to everyone except one specific group.

I have heard many people offer many different answers. I am just glad I was born in 1989 abd nit before, although I think it would have been good if more talks like Elder McConkie's August 1978 address had been given early on.

Back to Sister Lawrence-Costley, so on the eve of her baptism she was told of the priesthood and temple restrictions. Her sister's response was "I don't care, I am not going to be a priest". Sister Lawrence-Costley at 5 understood this would mean she could not marry in the temple. One of the 6 missionaries there than stood and promised her that by the time she was old enough to marry every worthy man in the church would be able to hold the priesthood. She graduated high school in June 1978 and began as a student at BYU that fall.

Matt said...

Other Matt here...

Pretty exciting to see the announced Benin City Nigeria Temple to be a 2 story 30,000 sq ft temple. Does that make it the largest temple in Africa?

Jonathon F. said...

Yes, and by a pretty significant margin. Next after Benin City is Durban, which is 19,860. Johannesburg is just barely smaller at 19,184, which actually makes it one of the larger overseas temples of that floor plan.

Anonymous said...

Looking at Temple Dimensions, it appears the Durban South Africa is currently the largest dedicated temple at 19,680 sq ft. Benin City: 30,700, Lagos: 19,800, Johannesburg: 19,184, Freetown: 18,000, Accra: 17,500, Harare: 17,250, Lubumbashi: 16,700, Kinshasa: 12,000, Aba: 11,500, Antananarivo: 10,000, and Praia: 8,759. Could not find square footage for Abidjan or Nairobi.

David McFadden said...

First Quarter we have 4 groundbreakings
2nd Quarter we will have at least 5 groundbreakings which is good improvement as additional announcements for this quarter are possible.

I'm really glad to see 2 Nigeria temples on the list. These mark the first groundbreakings in Nigeria since their first and only temple broke ground in Aba 23 years ago. Three others have been announced making a total of six in Nigeria with more to be announced due to its rapid growth.

However, to keep up with 35 announcements/year pace, we would need at least 9 groundbreakings per quarter.

Last year announcements dropped a little to 32 announcements, but still the lowest since 2020. I wonder if this is going to further decline until the temple department catches up.

David McFadden said...

Abidjan and Nairobi temple sizes were not announced when the church announced site locations, which is when the church now does. I would imagine we'll know by the time their dedicated (just a guess). However, they could also become the only operating temples without published floor area.

miro said...

Interesting. Thank you for posting these new branches. I noticed 2 more new branches in Spain on the meetinghouse locator.

Olot and Figueres, Spain both in the Barcelona stake.

Anonymous said...

Olot must be very new. I finished my Europe congregation map a couple of weeks ago, and I have the Figueres Branch, but Olot was not listed.

Anonymous said...

The approval for the creation of the Palmira Stake in Valle del Cauca, Colombia, has been submitted. Palmira is a city located in the department of Valle del Cauca, approximately 30 minutes from Cali, where the Church is currently building a temple.

Additionally, another district in the northern city of Santa Marta is nearing readiness to become a stake. I was informed that the district must maintain certain parameters for six consecutive months to qualify, and they are very close to achieving this milestone.

John Pack Lambert said...

Since Benin City has the most stakes of anuly city in Nigeria it having a large temple makes sense. Kinshasa has more stakes so it getting a 2nd temple would not surprise me.

Are Abijan Ivory Coast and Nairobi Kenya the only temples actually under construction that do not have announced square footages.

I believe the Layton Utah Temple's listed size when completed was more than the listed size in earlier announcements.

On the other hand Jakarta Indonesia is getting a temple of about 44,000 Square feet.

Chris D. said...

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/610909 ????

Chris D. said...

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/610550 ????

Chris D. said...

The Piedmont Virginia Stake (2278219) was recently organized and added to the Meetinghouse Locator map.

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/2278219

Anonymous said...

Very curious to see how it turns out. The Palmira District only shows 4 branches, so I'm wondering if those 4 branches are somehow large enough to create 5 wards. I don't see them taking any congregations from Cali because the 3 stakes in Cali only have 5 wards each, unless a branch or two upgrade to wards. It can be possible with some rearranging, like if the Buenaventura Branch were assigned to the Cali Colombia Calima Stake (which is strange because half the city is in that stake, yet the Buenaventura Branch isn't assigned to any stake or district) and if the 2 branches in Buga were transferred from Tulua to Palmira (would still leave Tulua with 5 branches). Aside from that, I don't really see any other congregations being involved.

For Santa Marta, it has 6 branches (I think it used to be 7 a while ago). There are 2 unassigned branches in Riohacha (could be that 7th branch) and Maicao (though it's much closer to Valledupar). It certainly seems do-able for both districts to become stakes.

Chris D. said...

In other news, the Zambia Lusaka Mission recently organized the Kasungu Malawi District (2290146). Just north of the Capital, Lilongwe.

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/2290146

John Pack Lambert said...

With Kusungu getting a district I am thinking Lilongwe might get a temple before Blantyre. They are about 6 hours apart, so both getting a temple seems reasonable at some point.

Above it is said there is now a branch in Kenge, DR Congo. It appears that it has not shown up on meetinghouse locator yet. Kenge appears it may be the first branch in Kwango Province, which had 2.6 million people in 2020. It would also be the closest branch to Kinshasa at least to the east.

It looks like both Bandundu and Kikwit have 3 branches each. They are too far apart to really work as 1 district. Kenge may be close enough to Kikwit though that it could be put in a district with Kikwit. I suspect we will see a few more districts formed in DR Congo this year. I am also hoping Kisangani may become a stake this year.

John Pack Lambert said...

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints released its annual giving to the poor and the needy report. Giving was $1.45 billion, which was a $90 million increase from last year. In 2021 it was under $1 billion. On the other hand donated hours were 6.8 million in 2021 and only 6.4 million last year, but that was up from 6.2 million in 2023. I am not sure donated hours are recorded as well as some other things though. For example I think they had us sing in for the hours we helped with the clothing distribution but I am not sure everyone always did. I am sure money expended is well tracked, so I have to admit that I feel that is a more useful metric. Maybe I focus too much on metrics and not enough on just helping people.

Anonymous said...

Just some notes on this. (My family live in Buena Vista and my dad is the stake clerk) This stake creation involved 5 stakes, 4 missions and 2 areas to create. I know they have wanted a stake in this area for a long time and a new ward in Buena Vista and the recently created Sandy River Ward (It used to be two branches later one branch and now a Ward) plus I sure other things now made it possible. Some members in the outer wards and branches will be further from the new stake center than the stake they came from but I don't know what percentage of members of those units it will affect. They building in Lynchburg that will be the stake center is small so that will make some things difficult but with the recent emphasis on maximizing use of church buildings I don't expect a new stake center until they are ready to create a 4th ward in Lynchburg. Below are the units in the new stake and which stake they came from.

Bedford Branch (Roanoke Virginia Stake)
Danville Ward (Greensboro North Carolina Stake)
Gretna Branch (Buena Vista Virginia Stake)
Lynchburg 1st Ward (Buena Vista Virginia Stake)
Lynchburg 2nd Ward (Buena Vista Virginia Stake)
Lynchburg 3rd Ward (Buena Vista Virginia Stake)
Sandy River Ward (Richmond Virginia Midlothian Stake)
South Boston Branch (Durham North Carolina Stake)

Bryan said...

Cool 2 stakes in Virginia in a year. I used to live in Maryland I wonder if they have any new wards or branches recently or are close to getting a new stake

JTB said...

My brother served in that area very recently, and apparently there has been a significant boom in missionary work in the Palmira district as of late. From his perspective this new stake will be primarily driven by growth due to new members. Certainly take this with a grain of salt as it is anecdotal, but that's the report from those in the area. I am looking forward to seeing what units are involved in the new stake.

Anonymous said...

From what I understand, they will unite the Tuluà and Palmira districts to create the new stake.

Chris D. said...

Matt, I was just reviewing your Potential Sites Map again for recent changes.
I came upon this slight change under the Evanston Wyoming site on the top of your Most Likely list.

The Lyman Wyoming Stake - 1976, was renamed the Bridger Valley Wyoming Stake (508608), on or around October 24th, 2021.

Chris D. said...

And I would add, under the Bo Sierra Leone potential site, the new Bo Sierra Leone Durba Stake - 2024.

Pascal Friedmann said...

Overall very exciting developments!

It was asked earlier about where we see the Church in 50 years. I hope to be old but still around then but we'll see. There are a lot of degrees of freedom to this prediction but I believe here are some things I feel quite strongly about:

- Texas will surpass Utah as the state with the most members in the US
- We will see the emergence of a second area of high membership percentages (5-10% of the population likely) in the region from southern Illinois via Missouri, eastern Kansas, Arkansas and Oklahoma to northern Texas.
- We will surpass the Southern Baptist Convention and become the second largest religious body in the US (actually this will likely happen in the next 10 years already).

Internationally, I expect the Church to have many millions of members in Nigeria and the DRC. These two countries will have the largest membership in the world, with the US in third. I expect us to be the largest religious body in Liberia and Sierra Leone and to be a very noticeable minority in the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa.

The Philippines are likely to be covered entirely (perhaps minus the Muslim califate areas) by stakes by 2040. Latin American growth will be driven especially by Colombia, Bolivia and Ecuador, which all could reach over one million members within 50 years. Chile, Peru and Argentina will get there too, but I expect growth rates to be lower.

In Europe, I expect Spain to surpass the UK in total membership. France and Germany will see some substantial membership growth, largely but not exclusively driven by immigrants. I would look to the Balkans for increasingly dynamic growth, with the northern Balkans likely to follow patterns of Albania eventually.

Vanuatu and the Solomon Islands could become majority or at least plurality LDS countries in the Pacific, depending largely on availability of Mission resources.

Chris D. said...

Also, I would add the Azikoro Nigeria District - 2024 from the Nigeria Port Harcourt North Mission to the potential Port Harcourt units.

Chris D. said...

Under the possible Rigby Idaho list, the Rigby Idaho South Stake - 2009, was renamed Rigby Idaho Garfield, in or around November 2024.

Chris D. said...

The Lilongwe Malawi potential site would include this weeks added Kasungu Malawi District - 2025.

Caleb said...

I sure hope all these things happen. The only one I personally cannot see happening is Texas surpassing Utah as the state with the most members in the US. That would either require many hundreds of thousands of LDS moving to Texas, hundreds of thousands of convert baptisms in Texas, or hundreds of thousands of people leaving the Church in Utah (plus a complete collapse of the birthrate in Utah, which is, unfortunately, somewhat happening). None of those seem particularly likely.

It would not surprise me at all if the DRC someday becomes the country with the most members in the world. Both LDS and population growth rates there are immense. We shall see though.

Chris D. said...

Under the Caldwell / Nampa Idaho site, I would also include a 16th Stake, the Nampa Idaho North - 2004.

Noah said...

Other Noah here.

Exciting news! I hope the saints in Valle del Cauca increase in numbers and faith a lot thanks to the temple being closer

Johnathan Reese Whiting said...

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints released a new rendering of a smaller McKinney Texas Temple to be built in Fairview, Texas. The church and Fairview Town officials agreed to a compromise for a smaller temple."

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2025/03/25/church-submits-application-for-smaller-mckinney-texas-temple-fairview/

John Pack Lambert said...

In the late 1970s and 1980s some thought that Church membership in California would soon exceed that in Utah. That did not happen.

Predicting the future 50 years out is hard yo do. So I do not even pretend to be able to guess what thongs MA y be like in 2075. That year I will turn 95.

I do see membership in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Sainrs in Texas exceeding that in California as possible.

There is much growth in outreach that has to occur in Texas.

It is looking like plans for the McKinney Texas Temple are moving forward again. However this is a smaller temple than originally planned. I think this means we will see another 1-2 temples announced for Northeast Texas soon.

JoellaFaith said...

that shows we are weak and now everyone can just reject us building

JoellaFaith said...

it easy for texas to get higher numbers then utah alot of lds are leaving utah and relocate in the midwest

Anonymous said...

I don't really see it as weakness and more so as a willingness to compromise. I do believe the Church was justified in McKinney and the town officials were being hypocritical with approving the bell tower (doesn't matter if it wasn't built) but rejecting the temple certainly feels like favoritism, especially since I read the church the bell tower was for was run by the son of the mayor.

I remember reading about a ton of complaints when the Church wanted to build a temple in Phoenix, but when the temple was finally built, they discovered that nearly all of their "concerns" didn't happen. People in Lone Mountain complaining the temple violates a local ordinance on industrial buildings, which the temple clearly isn't. People are going to complain no matter what the Church does. People are going to complain the Church exists period.

With places like Heber Valley, the people are complaining it's too large, yet from my understanding, Heber City is a popular tourist destination. The Church is pretty good at planning ahead (remember home-centered study being introduced before COVID reared it's ugly head and shut everything down?), which I feel makes sense (never been to Heber City), but I wonder if the Church opted for a smaller temple that these same people would complain it's not big enough because tourists are making it too busy?

Anonymous said...

This is just my opinion of course. Something to keep in mind is most non-members likely don't understand or appreciate how significant temples are to us. To them, it's "just another building." We'll see if Fairview keeps its word.

Anonymous said...

As someone who has been following this story closely, this is a good outcome. The Church gets to move forward with building the temple that the Church and Fairview agreed to in mediation. Moreover, litigation is avoided. While I would have preferred the original design, going the litigation route to get there would have resulted in bad feelings, etc. This settlement gets the temple that the Church was happy to agree to, and that Fairview agreed to.

Noah said...

The main difference between Heber and Fairview is that the Heber temple was approved by city council unanimously and is being stalled by a lawsuit from a few residents. The temple in Fairview was rejected by the city council. Going to court would be justified for the church in both cases, but Fairview managed to come to a compromise, while those Heber residents flat out reject any temple on that lot.

Anonymous said...

I'm not as familiar with the controversy over the Heber City temple, so I can't really comment on that. However, for Fairview, a similar situation could occur. It sounds like the City Council will honor their mediated settlement agreement and approve the temple. Whether the Fairview residents will go along with that is an unknown. They might file a lawsuit, which sounds like what happened in Heber City. Hopefully it doesn't come to that. For the moment, the City Council indicating that they will approve is a good sign. So, lets hope it proceeds without too much further controversy.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the church can sell part of the McKinney land. It’s prime land and more than required for the smaller temple.

Anonymous said...

I can't remember exactly, but I think I recall that the total square footage of the Phoenix Arizona Temple ended up being bigger when they reduced the height due to adding a full basement.

David McFadden said...

The footprint of the 30k sf temple is likely going to be bigger than the 44k sf temple. This is because it's no longer going to be multi-story.

James G. Stokes said...

Hello again, everyone! I promised I would post my more specific list of prospective temple locations when I had it ready, so here it is! You can find the locations I am specifically projecting for this conference at the bottom of that document. My thanks once again to you all.

James G. Stokes said...

Also, the first leaders of the Alabang and Davao Philippines Temples have been named, suggesting both will be dedicated this year:

https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders/2025/03/27/new-temple-presidents-and-matrons-london-to-tokyo/

My thanks once again to you all.

Anonymous said...

James, I think it’s more fair to say “suggesting both are expected to be dedicated by August 2026”?

James G. Stokes said...

Nope. Both are on track to be dedicated this year. I'm projecting Alabang in October or November and Davao in November or December. If I'm wrong on either or both of those, I'll come back and let you say "I told you so." But that's coming from someone who correctly predicted the window for Farmington New Mexico's dedication to the exact month and date range, so make of that what you will.

James G. Stokes said...

Sorry if that sounded vain or pompous. That wasn't my intent. I don't know why exactly my estimate matched the announced date for the dedication of the Farmington New Mexico Temple, but I'm grateful that it did. I can't take credit for that.

Anonymous said...

Sorry if this is a silly question, but it's about Rick's Temples site. On my browser, I always have 2 tabs from his site open, one on the News page and the other on the Stake/District Changes page. I have both pages bookmarked, but my question is: how am I supposed to find the Stake/District Changes within the website? I've looked all over Library and Statistics, but I've seen nothing that says "here's where you can see the recent changes to stakes and districts worldwide." The only reason I have the page was because someone provided a link.

Anonymous said...

I guess I ask from two different perspectives: 1) a person that discovers the site and is curious to find everything they find about temples and their respective districts and might be interested to see new or discontinued stakes/districts, and 2) if I were to somehow lose the bookmark (or use a computer and don't have access to my bookmarks, like this one), how can I find it again without having someone just give me the link.

John Pack Lambert said...

If I remember correctly Alabang was not in the original list of temple presidents released a few weeks ago. It is good to see it have a president announced. Elder Kearon had invited President Marcos of the Philippines to the Alabang Open house when thry met a few months ago, and had indicated it would probably be in 2025. So I am not surprised.

This means that every temple announced by President Monson now has a President called. We just need a president called for Pago Pago American Samoa and the same will be true for every temple announced by President Kimball. OK I have maybe worn out the comments on Pago Pagos unique story.

With the McKinney Texas Temple I think the main plus to the mediation leading to the temple being built is this process is faster.

The idea of selling off some of the land makes no sense. The smaller temple is mainly achieved by going from 2 stories to 1 story. The size is not bring reduced by haldmf, so the square footage may go up, I am not sure.

However also a selling point, that might not have quite worked but is still key is that the plan increases the number of trees and leaves the temple not much visible for the residents.

Selling off any of the land is just a way to make people around more angry. Even selling off a small amount to build houses would make people mad, and I do not think it would be practical.

There are good results of having green space and space gor quiet contemplation. Not every square inch has to be building or parking lot, so selling off the land makes no sense. Especially since center if is mot clear the building footprint, the amount of ground covered by the building, will go down at all.

Yes I know there are temple like Tokyo and Philadelphia in central urban areas that have less acreage devoted to them, bur then there is Washinton DC which has a truly immense average devoted to it. The current McKinney lot fits the general area it is in, selling part of it off would not.

Chris D. said...

Anonymous, Like my good friend, James Stokes above, I too don't wish to be labeled as "pompous or vain". I have been labeled in the past by some here as "Taking over the site" as if I was the owner or only one allowed to post or comment. I truly hope none of you see me in that light. And if so, I am truly sorry for adding my 2 bits of ongoning research or knowledge from a select few official Church recognized sources, i.e. Church News, or Newsroom daily post updates, or non official but my good personal friend Rick Satterfield, who runs his own site non profit and not official as the site declares, called https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org. Which with my friendship he had graciously shared with me some months ago, his own list of ongoing changes he updates weekly on any of the individual Temple Districts pages. To remind himself, then me specifically, which changes were made within the last 90 days. I then compare my ongoing Excel database of Stakes/Districts past and present.

Here is his general list of links to all the Dedicated Temples worldwide. I click on the link here related to the change i'm looking for.

https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/statistics/districts/

Using my initiative, I first locate the name of the changed or added Stake or district on Meetinghouse locator and on my Google Earth maps, from Matt's Potential Temples as a starting point. Which also shows many of the current districts. He is very busy and takes time for him to update all the districts to his map format.

If i know the closest or nearby Dedicated temple, then i can click on the link to that district to find the changed or added Stake in that list or nearby temple.

Here is the afore mentioned Rick Satterfield's Stake/District updates page link. That i too have bookmarked on my browser. In the case as you mentioned, that you or an acquaintance has erased the saved link. It cannot be located anywhere on his site. Since, it his own personal reminder of what changes were made so i could follow. Prior to him making that Updates page, i was asking him every day in emails which changes if any were changed on the Temples site. Now when I find a change on tuesday morning Meetinghouse updates in each 23 Church Areas list I tell him, and he updates the official Temple District from the official Church CDOL list assigned units.

https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/units/

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Among today's group of Biographies for 16 new Mission Leaders, I found 2 unexpected changes for this year.

1st, Brother Sergio A. Castañón, had been called earlier this year, to preside over the Nicaragua Managua North Mission. But this week, has been replaced by the youngest new President in this group (38 years old), Brother Walter Venegas from Costa Rica, to replace President Roger Perez.

2nd, an addition was made to this years New Presidents. It looks like President Milton Queiroz (that was not announced earlier this year) of the Brazil Sao Paulo South Mission, is being released a year early. And Brother Paulo Ribeiro de Moura, has been called this week to replace him.

https://www.thechurchnews.com/leaders/2025/03/28/new-mission-presidents-and-companions-nevada-to-nicaragua/

Chris D. said...

I forgot to add, according to my records, there is just 7 more Mission Leaders Biographies to post for the July 2025 changes. Including 3 that were previously posted as "To be announced".

Anonymous said...

I personally enjoy (most of) the commentary on this blog, even if I'm not terribly interested in the topic. If there is a comment on a subject I don't care about, I just skip it (I have the freedom to do that, no one's forcing me to read it), and I don't bear ill against the person. Someone might say you have "too much time on [your] hands," but I see no shame in a project you are passionate about (as long as it's constructive, not destructive). Just because *I'm* not interested doesn't mean it's not important to someone else.

During Sunday School or Elders Quorum, I make a couple of comments, but then I stay silent if I feel I've talked too much. There's just a chaotic tug-of-war in my life with trying to be humble without lacking confidence, trying to ensure that confidence doesn't extend into arrogance, trying to fulfil the desire to contribute while avoiding the idea of being overbearing. Might seem contradictory to try to value other's opinions while worrying about being imposing with my own, but I'm still figuring it out.

Chris D. said...

Again, Thank you, Anonymous (whichever anonymous you are). I am indeed grateful for your feedback and humble evaluation. I am doing my best to reign in my natural "Leo" leadership tendencies here and allow all to comment or add to the conversation. I just get anxious sometimes to get the Good News out to you all here. And yes, I have taken a hiatus on my Cities Mapping project for the moment. I had recently just completed the Cities boundaries map for the 3 countries of Japan, North Korea and South Korea. I'm taking a break for a while before i continue with the rest of Southeast Asia and Southwest Asia and Middle East, each with their own writing script. It's hard to sort out names that i can't even read, let alone say. India and Indonesia may take less time, using the latin alphabet names on the map.

Matt said...

Chris D - Please email me at matt.martinich@gmail.com. I have something I want to discuss with you.

Curtis said...

Just last Sunday, the Edmonton Gateway Stake had some boundaries adjusted. Some of the Sherwood Park Stake area (but no wards) was absorbed, and two new wards were organized, the Yellow Bird Ward (English), and the Meadow Lark Ward (Tagalog). The Yellowknife Branch was moved to the Bonnie Doon Stake. Other wards had some boundaries adjusted. There are now two Tagalog wards in Edmonton. The addition of two more wards in South Edmonton now further stretches the limited number of meeting houses in the Edmonton Area all around, but especially in South Edmonton. Two meeting houses have four wards, the rest three. One meetinghouse has only two YSA Wards but is actually just an Institute building with a small carpet gym that converts to a chapel, and North Edmonton has only one meetinghouse with only two wards using it. St. Albert has a meeting house with only one ward in it and is the only meetinghouse in the metro area with one ward. I thought it before but I definitely think so now; I really hope another chapel gets built in Edmonton very soon. I always thought it odd that Edmonton proper has only 9 meeting houses (including the institute building). While Calgary proper has 19 meeting houses, more than double, but only 2 more stakes than Edmonton. In case anyone is wondering if, Calgary and Edmonton have virtually the same sized urban area. Only a 6 km² difference with Calgary being bigger.

John Pack Lambert said...

Per the Church news President and Sister Moura begin their service in March (meaning either now, or thry begin a week or more ago and it is only just being included). I know nothing more on this subject.

With only 7 more mission presidents to announce we could get them all announced before conference. Although there may be changes caused by calls in conference, we shall see.

Someone pointed that the size of the Lagos Temple may make an Ibadan Temple more likely. This may be so. It is also why I think a Lagos Nogeria Agege Temple is possible. It is the only case of city with a temple announced but not one dedicated I think has any possibility of having a 2nd temple announced before the planned temple is dedicated.

Guatemala City it would not shock me to see a 3rd Temple announced for the general city, same with Manila and Sao Paulo (and Lima, but it right now has 2 dedicated temples), but those all have an operating temple so it is a different story. There are also some cities with operating temples a 2nd temple would not shock me, but only Lagos of cities with only an announced temple would I not be astounded to see a temple announced for it. However south-east Nigeria probably has a steiner need for another temple than south-west Nigeria, and Ibadan is probably the most likely place the next south-west Nigeria Temple will go, so Lagos Nigeria Agege if it happens at all may not be announced for a while, and so Lagos Nigeria Temple may get done before the Legos,Nigeria Agege Temple is announced.

Anonymous said...

The Lima Peru temple is one of the smallest but also has a high number of stakes in the city. I wonder if they will rebuild that temple and double or triple the size.

Anonymous said...

The Lima temple is on a very small block of land.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I was wrong about the size of the block the Lima Peru temple is on.

Anonymous said...

Could they rebuild it with basement space or add a floor? If more parking is needed at underground or multilevel parking space.

Chris D. said...

Here is an interesting article I missed earlier this week on the Newsroom site,

The President of the Africa West Area recently visited with Government officials in Togo. I know that Lome Togo has been on our radar for quite some time.

https://news-africa.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-of-the-africa-west-area-visits-government-officials-in-togo

Johnathan Reese Whiting said...

New potential seminary building being discussed for the suburbs of Tucson, AZ:

https://www.kgun9.com/news/community-inspired-journalism/vail/lds-seminary-coming-to-cienega-high-school-is-raising-concerns

Johnathan Reese Whiting said...

@Anonymous & Chris D.

I appreciate your comments about finding a happy medium between knowing when to speak and when to listen (both here and at church). I agree it can be a delicate balance at times.

Ryan Searcy said...

Sorry about the confusion. I've been getting frustrated having to sign in nearly every time to make a comment under my name. I'm dealing with technical issues on my computer, where when it goes to sleep sometimes it will completely close out every program when it's not supposed to, and I'd have to sign into my browser at least a couple of times a day. I guess I forgot just how many different Anonymous can appear on here, but 11 of the (as of writing this comment) 29 Anonymous comments on this post are mine.

Religlang said...

Here are the promised changes to the stakes in the OKC metro (Deer Creek and Noble have been added as stakes):
https://okcstake.org/#23ca49d1-9b0b-44eb-83af-790d5be888f7

Jessica said...

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but the Milan Italy Stake has been reassigned to the Bern Switzerland Temple according to my relatives there. They were assigned to Rome but it is much further away so many members were still going to Bern anyway, they just couldn't be temple workers there until now.

Religlang said...

In addition, the OKC south stake has been renamed to OKC, and the OKC stake has been renamed to Yukon.

Chris D. said...

I wonder if it's just a coincidence that both the Austin Texas Stake (506915) and the Austin Texas Oak Hills Stake (520845), have their Stake Conferences scheduled the same day 05/04-05/04.

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/506915
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/520845

Ryan Searcy said...

Looks like my predictions were somewhat off.

Jonathon F. said...

My guess is they will renovate and expand it, but I also think there will be a third temple built in Lima at some point. There's not enough space to renovate it to the extent needed to support the number of stakes it's already serving, and that number is only going to keep growing. It would need to practically quadruple in size to be up-to-par with its current district size.

Ryan Searcy said...

Round Rock Texas Stake also has stake conference that day. Those 3 stakes have a combined 24 wards and 1 branch. That could easily split into 4 stakes with 6 wards each.
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/272795

However, it does also show the Austin Texas Stake and Round Rock Texas Stake having stake conference on November 9th.

Ryan Searcy said...

Looks like from the site provided, there are 2 new wards - the Winds West Ward in the reorganized Oklahoma City Oklahoma Stake and the Norman 3rd Branch (Spanish) was upgraded to a ward. It says the Purcell Ward is new, but that's been around for at least a few weeks (it existed when I did my predictions).

John Pack Lambert said...

I think they will wait to have at least 1 more temple in Lima before doing anything to upgrade or expand the first Lima Temple. I just do not see Los Olivos being able to handle the strain from the Lima Temple not being operational. Huancayo and Iquitos will when completed relieve some of the strain, but I think metro Lima needs at least 1 more temple now.

UT is now less than 1 week until general conference is completed. We will see what happens.

I am hoping for some temple announcements tomorrow, but with do many last week, I am not holding my breath.

Johnathan Reese Whiting said...

@Ryan Searcy

Thanks for clarifying. :)

In 5th Sunday today, the teacher reminded me of a scripture that applies to our discussion.

Ecclesiastes 3:1-8:

1. "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven..."

7. "...a time to keep silence, and a time to speak..."

Chris D. said...

I've been avoiding the "MormonShrivel" blog lately. But i found these 2 posts of current "Ward realignments" that are planned. The image seems to be from 2 legitimate Stake Letters about the proposed changes.

#1 The Grand Junction Colorado West Stake

https://www.reddit.com/r/MormonShrivel/comments/1jid8d0/grand_junction_co/

#2 The Lehi Utah West Stake

https://www.reddit.com/r/MormonShrivel/comments/1jnpotc/lehi_shrinkage/

Take it with a grain of salt. Please, don't shoot the messenger.

Chris D. said...

Also, Rick updated his Temples site today from Religlang and Jessicas above comments.

"Recent Church Unit Updates (Past 90 Days)
Posted on 3/30/2025 — NEW UNIT – The Noble Oklahoma Stake was added.
Posted on 3/30/2025 — NEW UNIT – The Deer Creek Oklahoma Stake was added.
Posted on 3/30/2025 — The Oklahoma City South Stake became the Oklahoma City Stake.
Posted on 3/30/2025 — The Oklahoma City Oklahoma Stake became the Yukon Oklahoma Stake.
Posted on 3/30/2025 — The Milan Italy West Stake was transferred to the Bern Switzerland Temple District.
Posted on 3/30/2025 — The Milan Italy East Stake was transferred to the Bern Switzerland Temple District.

https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/units/

Caleb said...

2 wards discontinued in Lehi. From the post, we don't actually know what happened in Grand Junction. It could be wards being discontinued, but it could also be wards being created, although that does seem less likely given it is an evening meeting. But, if the boundaries are changing throughout the stake, not necessarily.

Chris D. said...

With just a week until Conference weekend, Are there any last minute prediction updates to post?

James G. Stokes said...

I think 15 temples will be announced, bringing our total worldwide to 382, with 18 others announced in October for an even 400 by the end of 2025. Area seventy sustainings and released will be announnced Thursday, with new GA Seventies and a new Young Men General Presidency announced on Saturday morning. I will have the final version of my predictions up ony blog Thursday at 10:00 PM.

I think we will still get a major temple construction announcement tomorrow and that it will be another doozy like we saw last week, with updates for 5 or more temples announced during the 2:00 PM MDT hour here in Utah.

Chris D. said...

James, this morning at my Stake Conference, the visiting General Authority Seventy speaker, sustained last April 2024, from Nigeria.

James G. Stokes said...

Elder I. Raymond Egbo, who spoke to us last October during the Sunday Afternoon Session, I would assume.

Chris D. said...

Yes.

Fredrick said...

They're getting tougher to predict. Here are my temple predictions:

1. Spanish Fork, UT
2. Angeles, Philippines
3. Little Rock, AR
4. Port Harcourt, Nigeria
5. Santa Maria, RS, Brazil
6. Flagstaff, AZ
7. Evanston, WY
8. Alamosa / San Luis Valley, CO
9. Nampa, ID
10. Tyler / Longview, TX
11. Christchurch, NZ
12. Jackson, MS
13. Augusta, ME
14. Yamoussoukro, Ivory Coast
15. Lome, Togo
16. Neuquen, Argentina
17. Kingston, Jamaica
18. Rigby, ID
19. Charleston, WV
20. Cardiff, Wales, UK

JoellaFaith said...

2 stakes in the kansas city area are having stake conference on the same day in April. Now they do have wards that belong to the liberty stake but meet in the platte city stake building.And some of the stakes have 16 units

Anonymous said...

Lehi in general sees a ton of growth. I expect total wards in Lehi to exceed their previous record soon. -Michael Worley

Chris D. said...

Matt, The "Saratov Russia Stake (617245)", has recently been renamed the "Saratov Russia District (617245)", no longer under the guidance of the Eurasian Area directly, now under the Russia Moscow Mission.

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/617245

Chris D. said...

Matt, The Kenya Nairobi West Mission, recently organized the new Vihiga Kenya District (2291592)

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/2291592

Anonymous said...

It is a common occurrence to have close stake conferences on the same day, it's just that now we can see them on the meetinghouse locator.

Anonymous said...

So much for your "doozy" prediction James.

Chris D. said...

Also, Rick just added this new Stake to the Temples site this afternoon.

Hurricane Utah South Stake (2293102) - organized 30 March 2025
- Hurricane 4th Ward (84239)
- Hurricane 10th Ward (233994)
- Hurricane 15th Ward (389765)
- Hurricane 18th Ward (Spanish) (493457)
- Hurricane 19th Ward (1652214)
- Three Falls Ward (2162652)

https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/units/

John Pack Lambert said...

As far as I can tell Retelehue (sorry if I butchered the spelling) getting a site announcement and rendering today was the only development. They seem not to have said the size though. I was afraid with everything last week and conference so close we might get nothing, so I am glad we got that.

I believe 15 temple will put us to an even 200 announced by President Nelson. So both announcements will get us to even numbers, either temples announced by President Nelson or total temples.

I have a secret hope we will see more announced, but we shall see.

I have a secret hope list for general authorities. It will remain secret until after conference. If any comes to pass I may reveal that. It is a long enough secret list that there is a vague possibility at least someone on it might get called. However it is only around 10 or so, where the potential poolis easily more like 500. With another at least 3500 being at least potential. Elder Daynes was a stake president when called as a general authority, so realistically your potential is every area seventy, every mission president, every stake president, maybe recently released of the former two, and maybe even a few more. So I am not naming any names because it is such a broad field.

I might as well post the addresses for the Spanish Fork, Longview and Bo Trmples. I would have at least as good a chance of being right.

Anonymous said...

Things in the Church are not done in secret, but by public announcements, sustainings and declarations.

Ryan Searcy said...

I suppose a couple of other updates with Russia/Ukraine since I updated my map for the loss of the Saratov Stake. Figured I'd check for changes with both countries.

The 3 wards of the Saratov Stake were simply made into branches, so the unit still has 7 congregations total.

The Rostov-na-Donu Russia District Branch was discontinued, and the district is down to 9 branches.

In Ukraine, it appears the Donetsk Ukraine District Branch has been renamed the Donetsk Branch, and the branch in Luhansk has been discontinued. Unsure if Luhansk will simply be part of the Donetsk Branch (most likely in my opinion) or just part of the Ukraine Dnipro Mission. The district is left with only 2 branches.

Lastly, a new mission branch has appeared, called the Fyodorovka Branch it would be under the Ukraine Kyiv Mission. It is located fairly close to (but not on the border of) Moldova.

Anonymous said...

For Grand Junction West they created 2 new wards taking the total in the stake to 13 wards…

Caleb said...

Ha! Silly r/MormonShrivel being wrong yet again.

Johnathan Reese Whiting said...

Some interfaith news:

"Former Young Women General President Addresses Iftar Dinner in New York City"

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/former-young-women-general-president-iftar-dinner-new-york-city

Caleb said...

New branch in the previously unreached city of Masi-Manimba, DR Congo

Pascal Friedmann said...

This would definitely reflect the general westward movement by members who used to live east of the Dnipro, where it is today (and assuming nothing major changes) relatively safe. I have heard that some of the units in the Lviv District would now meet the requirements to become wards, which was a very long way off before the war. These reports are second-hand and I have no way of confirming them, but they seem realistic enough. If anything, I am shocked that some of the units in eastern Ukraine have held up as long as they have.

Anonymous said...

I am the anonymous person who asked the question a week or so ago about what the church might look like from your eyes in another 50 years. I’d like reading the comments on this site because I see other people that get as excited as I do about the growth of the LDS church, something that we all hold very sacred and very dear in our hearts in our minds. I just thought I’d share a few things with you. We’re told in the last days that Zion shall rien put on her beautiful garments. And sometimes we wonder what that might be. But Zion rising and putting on her beautiful garments is what we are watching. We are watching the church come out of obscurity , becoming very visible and the beauty of the gospel in the church has becoming more visible unavailable to everybody worldwide, so indeed Zion is a rising and putting on her beautiful garments for her beautiful strength. My grandmother was born in 1896 and his obviously passed away many years ago, Told me of changes she remembers seeing in the church… When she was a little girl back in the 20s and 30s, they used to have a little benches that would slide out from under the pews in front of them so anytime there was a prayer. The people would lean forward and kneel on those pews when they had prayer. That was in Heber city. She also talk to me about the time when every member of the church had their own little glass sacrament cup, and they would bring that with them to sacrament meeting and the deacons would go around and pour water into those little cups from a big picture and that was how they did the sacrament and how things have changed since then. I remember Monticello going to state conference where there wasn’t but about half an hour to 45 minutes for the speakers because they always had several deacons from every ward the Sacramento state conference to everybody and obviously that took quite a bit of time. My great grandmother was a relief society president in her stake in American Fork , and during the timeframe of the 1920s or 1930s whenever they had the great flu, epidemic worldwide, so many of the brother were sick that they couldn’t go out and give health blessings so she was called in by the stake president who actually laid his hands upon her head And upon her to go out, and he sick through the priest, which he, the stake president held and by virtue of her faith. And she did that to many many people. And she never got sick. Nowadays, why do we see in our lives? How many changes have taken place and where are they all leading. We are moving from the time of the basics of the gospel into the more beautiful and more advanced Concepts needed to help us along our path to exaltation. And truly, the outreach that the Lord and the Holy Ghost and all others involved have made the church spread throughout. The world is absolutely amazing, miraculous, and breathtaking! Love to all of you, my brothers and sisters, And gratitude to the Lord and the Holy Ghost and all all before us and all of those now that we get to be a part of this great work this marvelous work and a wonder

Anonymous said...

And sorry for the length of that last post. I really am. I just hope all of you can take it for what it is and appreciate the great blessings. We have here in the church.

Chris D. said...

The Brazil Goiânia Mission has recently discontinued the Patos de Minas Brazil District (2070375). It was taken off the Meetinghouse site this morning.

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/missions/2010763

Chris D. said...

The Sierra Leone Bo Mission recently organized the Koidu Sierra Leone District (2291398).

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/2291398

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/missions/2245825

Anonymous said...

Zero new temples. A breather.

Noah said...

It definitely won't be 0. It's likely to be 15 announcements (200 in total for President Nelson) or up to 20 (the most he's announced at a time).

Jonathon F. said...

Elder Andersen spoke at our stake conference here in London a couple weeks ago and essentially implied that President Nelson's not slowing down anytime soon. The Church's philosophy seems to be getting as many of these projects into the pipeline as possible, even if they get a little backed up for a while.

Anonymous said...

President Walter Venegas is an awesome leader. He was a stake president before he turned 30 and even managed to have his stake divided. In his last calling as Family History Director, he helped the region outdo all the others in key indicators. Even with all that, he's still humble and easy to approach. The North Nicaragua Mission really needs some energy, and things are definitely going to start picking up there.

John Pack Lambert said...

Wait, Grand Junction Colorado West stake has 13 wards! Why have thry not split the stake. Yes I know there are some requirements that might be met, and I know even more that you have to decide how to split a stake, which can be complex.

I am reading "Carry On". It is a very good book. Although some involved are the same people who created Saints it is a very different book. It is a good style, and as Elder Martinez pointed out meant to be readable, but it is not a narrative history with fast paced stories.

Thry do tell some of Helga Mensius, but make a lot less of her refusing to join the Hitler Youth, and spent a lot more time on how her German language Beehive manual came to be. Which involves mentioned Sarah Richards Cannon who oversaw the translation of the manual as head of relief society and other programs in the Swiss-German mission, which she was leading with her husband Hugh. The interesting thing is the indexer did not realize that mention to Hugh Cannon was the same Hugh Cannon who 14 or so years before as stake president encouraged the women starting the first girls camp.

With Camilla Eyring we do learn about her peregrwnstions as a youth, get a discussion of the why's of her not marrying in the temple (Spencer was under draft orders, they do get sealed before Lavan was born). We get lots more reference to Sprncer, but the only passing References to her later are more about her college friend Elsie Talmage Brandley. Thry do say Elsie's dad was James E. Talmage, but they do not ever connect the dots that her mom was May Booth Talmage was mentioned before. Nor do they seem to feel it necessary to explain the Young Women General president in the 1960s Florence Smith Jacobsen was the nice of Lucy Grant Cannon who was young women general president from the late 1930s to late 1940s. Even though we get the reference to Flirence's mother (Lucy's sister) cooking the potatoes for an early Thanksgiving dinner in September (because Florence's 2 sons are being deployed because of the Berlin Wall Crisis) while Florence goes to meet with President McKY to get her call. Thry mainly tell us that Florence had come back from leading the Eastern States mission with her husband in 1958 and since then had been on the YWMIA general board. Thry did not even bother explaining the scope of the Eastern States mission (I know it had New York City,didn't have New England, but I am not sure if upstate New York was in it, and I am also not sure of Philadelphia was).

Anonymous said...

O new temples would not be a breather. New temples give us breath and life. The more the better.

The last time the Church took a long term pause in moving forward with new temples, not just new announcements but literally going years without any temples publicly planned was the q960s. The thing is the Church ran a deficit from 1958-1963. Spending was outpacing revenues, and by 1963 reserves were almost gone. Work on the Chur h Office Building was halted, when the Oakland Temple was completed no new times were announced for about 4 years, and no temples were being built.

While the Church did see its reserves, at least those in oubkicly traded stocks, decline in the last quarter, thry are large enough that this decline is not a worry.

We are in a situation where the resources are there to build temples. With the size of convert baptisms up last year the need is there.

As much as I would like to see the pave of announcing temples increase, I think 2025 will probably be about the same level as the last 4 years, but I do not think we need a breather. While the number of temples being constructed is not as high as I would like, with 4 groundbreaking dates announced in the last 2 weeks, as well as 1 dedication date and 1 site, things are moving forward. So I think we will see at least 15 announced, and could see a few more. I have been wrong many times on many things, so I could be wrong in this.

Anonymous said...

Cannot read your posts any more, they are making my head hurt trying to figure out what you are tying to spell and convey. My apologies if you are offended, did not mean to. It's just reality.

Anonymous said...

John, please create your own blog with your random thoughts of the day. Most of your posts are irrelevant to the purpose of this blog.

Sincerely,

Another anonymous poster.

Johnathan Reese Whiting said...

At nearly the 11th hour, here are my Temple Predictions:

All Timeframes Start April, 2023
(When I first created the list).

1-3 Years from April, 2023:
(Oct. ‘23 to Apr. ‘26)

-More in Utah/Idaho (1-3):

-Weber County 2nd:
-North Ogden/West Weber County (announced after Syracuse & Layton Completed) (1-3)
-Possibilities:
-West Haven
and/or
-Pleasant View/North Ogden
-Springville/Mapleton/Spanish Fork Area, UT (1-3)
-Rigby, Idaho (1-3)

-More in USA/Canada (1-3):

-Jackson, Mississippi (1-3)

-More in Brazil/South America (1-3):

-Lima, Peru - Metro 3rd (1-3)
-Santa Maria, Brazil (8 Stakes, 2 Districts - as of Sep '23) (Santa Maria - large number of stakes in central and western Rio Grande do Sul State, two stakes now in Santa Maria, large number of stakes (29) assigned to the Porto Alegre Brazil Temple) or Passo Fundo, Brazil (5 Stakes - as of Sep '23) (also in Rio Grande do Sul and Far from Porto Alegre) or Friendship Frontier (Sant'Ana do Livramento, Brazil/Rivera, Uruguay) (1-3)
-Cuiabá, Brazil (2 stakes, 2 districts) (remote) (State of Mato Grosso) or Campo Grande (3 stakes) (State of Mato Grosso do Sul) (Both in Central Brazil) (1-3)
-Triple Frontier/Foz do Iguaçu (3 stakes, 3 districts) (State of Paraná) or Ciudad del Este (1 stake, 1 district), Paraguay (Triple Fronteira/Triple Corner/Triple Border of Southern Brazil, Paraguay, and Argentina)
(Foz do Iguaçu/Puerto Iguazu/Ciudad del Este) (PY/AR/BR) (1-3)
-Rio Branco (State of Acre), or Porto Velho (State of Rondônia), Brazil (1-3)

-More in Africa (1-3):

-Lome, Togo (1-3) (3 stakes, 2 districts)
-Cotonou, Benin (1-3) (2 Stakes & 1 district as of July ‘24)
-Yamoussoukro/Daloa/Gagnoa, Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) (4 stakes, 7 districts - Sep ‘23) (far) (central) (1-3)
-Port Harcourt, Nigeria Metro - 8 stakes, 2 districts - as of Sep ‘24) (not too far from Aba) (1-3)
-Bo, Sierra Leone (4 stakes) (1-3) (or perhaps after Freetown is completed?)

-More in Europe (1-3):

-Cardiff, Wales (3 stakes - Sep ‘23) (1-3)


Johnathan Reese Whiting said...

1-5 Years:
(Oct. ‘23 to Apr. ‘28)

-More in Oceania/Philippines (1-5):

-Majuro, Marshall Islands (1-5)

-Puerto Princesa (Palawan Island), Philippines (1 stake, 2 districts as of Nov ‘24) (far distance) (1-5)

-More in Europe (1-5):

-Tirana, Albania (1-5)

-More in Mexico/The Caribbean (1-5):

-Poza Rica or Papantla, Mexico (6 stakes, 1 district) (1-5)
-Kingston, Jamaica (1-5) (Elder Kearon visited Kingston in Feb ‘25)
-Port of Spain, Trinidad (1 stake, 7 districts - as of Sep ‘23) (1-5)

-More in Brazil/South America (1-5):

-Sorocaba, Brazil (Western São Paulo State) (5 stakes, 2 districts - as of Sep 23) (not too far from Sao Paulo & Campinas) (1-5)
-Tacna, Peru (southern tip of Peru/border w/ Chile) (1-5)
-Tacuarembó, Uruguay (8 Stakes and remote from Montevideo and Buenos Aires) or Rivera/Artigas, Uruguay (all relatively close to each other) (or Salto/Paysandú, Uruguay - next to the Paraná River on the Argentine border) (all in Northern Uruguay) (1-5)
-Sucre or Tarija, Bolivia (2 stakes, 5 districts) (far) (south) (1-5)
-Central Chile:
-Temuco, Chile (3 stakes, 3 districts as of Feb ‘24) (south-central Chile - far - in between Concepción and Puerto Montt) or Los Ángeles (close to Concepción) or Valdivia (close to Osorno) (1-5)

-More in Asia (1-5):

-Hanoi, Vietnam (Elder Christofferson visited Vietnam in Oct ‘19) (Elder Rasband visited members in Vietnam in late Oct '23) (Sister Wright visited Vietnam in June ‘24) (1-5)

Johnathan Reese Whiting said...

And just for fun, in case any of these are announced this conference:

3-5 Years:
(Apr. ‘26 to Apr. ‘28)

-More in USA/Canada (3-5):

-Kalispell, Montana (3-5) (after Missoula completed?)
-Mobile, Alabama/Pensacola, Florida (near each other) (4 stakes) (distance) (3-5)

-More in Asia (3-5):

-New Delhi, India (3-5) (after Bengaluru is finished)
-Lahore, Pakistan (or other, Pakistan) (Karachi or Islamabad/Rawalpindi?) (3-5) (after Bengaluru is finished?)
(Sister Spannaus visited Lahore in June ‘24)
-Hiroshima, Japan (3-5) (Elder Soares recently visited Hiroshima in May 2024)

-More in South America (3-5):

-Ecuador #3: (3-5)
-(the only country in the world with multiple temples that hasn't had a temple announced by President Nelson)
-Otavalo, Ecuador (3 stakes) (North - near Quito) (3-5)
-Ambato or Quevedo, Ecuador (6 stakes, 4 districts) (West-Central) (3-5)
-Machala, Ecuador (5 stakes, 1 district) (South) (3-5)
-Neuquen, Argentina (5 stakes) or Trelew, Argentina (3 stakes, 3 districts) (3-5)
-Pisco, Peru (South of Lima) (3 stakes - Sep '23) (3-5)
-Puno, Peru (East of Arequipa) (3 stakes - Sep '23) (3-5)
-Chimbote, Peru (South of Trujillo) (4 stakes, 2 districts - Sep '23) (3-5)
-Huánuco, Peru (Central) (4 stakes - Sep '23) or Pucallpa (3-5)

-More in Brazil (3-5):

-São Luís (Maranhão State) or Palmas (Tocantins State), Brazil (3-5)
-Uberlândia (Minas Gerais State), Brazil (3-5) (2 stakes, 1 district as of Feb ‘24)
-Araçatuba (5 stakes, 2 districts as of Feb ‘24) or São José do Rio Preto (both Far Western São Paulo State), Brazil (3-5)
-São Paulo City Metro #3 or #4, etc./São Paulo State (3-5):
-(Another 4-5 temples in the greater São Paulo Metro region? (in the same way as it happened in Mexico City?):
-Possibilities:
-São Paulo City South/ABC Industrial Region/Diadema (10-12 Stakes as of Mar ‘25)
-São José dos Campos (Eastern São Paulo State - northeast of São Paulo City)
-Sorocaba, Brazil Metro (West of São Paulo City) (5 stakes, 2 districts - as of Mar ‘25) (not too far from Sao Paulo & Campinas)
-Jundiaí (35 miles north of São Paulo City - less likely)

-More in Europe (3-5):

-Porto/Funchal, Portugal
-(Funchal (Island of Madeira), Portugal (close to Canary Islands)) (3-5)
-Berlin, Germany (3-5)
-London, England #2/London North (8 stakes as of Sep ‘24) (3-5)

-More in Oceania/Philippines (3-5):

-Hobart, Tasmania, Australia (3-5)
-Christchurch, New Zealand (3-5) (2 stakes, 1 district as of March ‘24)

-San Pablo City, Philippines (7 stakes, 6 districts as of Mar ‘25) or Batangas or Lipa, Philippines? (all 3 close to each other and not too far south of Manila (Southern Luzon Island (main island)) (3-5)