I have updated my temple prediction map in preparation for General Conference in April. The size of the Church in a specific geographical area (i.e. number of stakes and districts, the number of wards and branches), the age of the oldest stake in a specific geographical area, church growth trends, the distance to the nearest temple, traffic/transportation, the square-footage of the nearest temple, the historical number of weekly endowment sessions scheduled at the nearest temple, and member and missionary reports regarding member activity, temple attendance, and convert retention are variables used to identify prospective sites for future temple announcements. Altogether, there are 194 potential temples on the map (which is 14 potential temple sites less than the total number of potential sites identified in September 2024). The following seven locations have been added to the temples prediction map with this current update - all of which are less likely temples:
- Cabanatuan City, Philippines
- Feira de Santana, Brazil
- General Santos, Philippines
- Tagbilaran, Philippines
- Hilo, Hawaii
- Madang or Lae, Papua New Guinea
- Taravao, Tahiti
Also,
there were six locations that were moved from the less likely to be
announced list to the more likely to be announced list. Provided with a
reasoning for the transfer from the less likely temples to be announced
list to the more likely temples to be announced list, these locations
included:
- Bulawayo, Zimbabwe (remote location, three stakes in the metropolitan area, creation of the Zimbabwe Bulawayo Mission in 2018)
- Caldwell or Nampa, Idaho (steady growth in the western Boise metropolitan area likely warrants a third temple for the area, now approximately 15 stakes in the area that could be part of a new temple district)
- Dar es Salaam, Tanzania (remote location, first stake created in early 2025, rapid growth throughout the country, high prospects for a second stake in the near future, Tanzania Dar es Salaam Mission organized in 2020).
- Ibadan, Nigeria (rapid growth in this area of Nigeria for many years, two stakes in Ibadan, Nigeria Ibadan Mission reinstated in 2018)
- Lilongwe, Malawi (remote location, first two stakes in Malawi were organized in 2024, rapid growth)
- Santa Maria, Brazil (large number of stakes in central and western Rio Grande do Sul State, two stakes now in Santa Maria, large number of stakes (29) assigned to the Porto Alegre Brazil Temple)
In my opinion, the following 10 locations appear most likely to have temples announced this coming General Conference. As always, your prediction lists are welcome and encouraged.
- Spanish Fork, Utah
- Angeles or Olongapo, Philippines
- Bo, Sierra Leone
- Port Harcourt, Nigeria
- Rigby, Idaho
- Lomé, Togo
- Southeast Salt Lake City, Utah (i.e., Cottonwood Heights, Holladay, or Sandy)
- Evanston, Wyoming
- San Pablo City, Philippines
- Bulawayo, Zimbabwe
See below for the map of likely and less likely new temple sites:
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 295 of 295Looking at that site, it looks more like a phantom odd thing. At least I have not heard anything about getting a new building, and that site would be for a replacement building not an additional building. If they were going to split the branch and get a new building, they would choose one about 4-5 miles further west.
If the church decided to go with a bigger building, buying that Dollar General lot might work. On the other hand 5 years ago there was talk of the Church setting up some sort of I think local version of Deseret Industries, also with maybe some other functions, in Detroit to be staffed by a senior missionary couple. I heard about it once, and exactly what it would be was pretty fuzzy. I am guessing Covid-disruption waylaid the plan. So that location could be used for such a thing. Maybe. I have heard nothing that would indicate such a think is in progress in the last few years, but since I did hear something about 5 years ago, and only heard that because at the time I was on the branch council, and have not been a regular branch council member for 4 years, although I did sit on as a counselor on maybe 2-3 meetings in the time being. So that is possible.
If we wanted a distribution center, we probably should have bought to old Masonic Temple property right next to the stake center/temple before someone else did. I doubt a distribution center could be located on the temple property itself. However deep east side of Detroit is not where you would put a distribution center. If you put it in the city of Detroit you would put it on Woodward, and maybe build a new chapel behind it for Palmer Park branch. More likely you would put it somewhere under 2 miles from the temple, still on Woodward, but about 8 miles north of the city limit.
The outgoing president of the Lisbon Portugal Temple is a Japanese Brazilian with a Portuguese wife. They lived in Lisbon when called to lead the temple. I have no clue how long they had lived in Lisbon before that (I would not be surprised if for decades). The new president both he and his wife were born in Brazil. Since they previously lead the Santo Mission I can learn a little more. I found he was in a stake presidency in Florianopolis back in 1993 (Sister Cabral was born in Florianopolis, Brother Cabral is Curitiba, in the next state north). He was a counselor to Adelson de Paula Parrella who was later a genera authority seventy (I believe he currently is one).
In 2013 the Cabrals lived in Forteleza where he was seminary and institute coordinator (in 1994 he seems to have worked as a business manager). That is when they were called to lead the mission in Santos. So they have at most lived in Portugal for about 9 years, since they ended leading the Santos Mission in 2016. I believe Santos was newly formed in 2013. The current bio says that President Cabral is a formed mission president, stake president and bishop as well as a temple worker, service missionary advisor and institute teacher (my guess is he retired from his job with seminaries and institutes, but cannot quite escape). The mission president bio shows he has also been a mission president counselor, stake presidents counselor, stake mission president and a mission in the Rio de Janeiro Mission (that means he has lived or been a missionary in at least Rio, Florianopolis, Curitiba, Santos and Fortaleza). Even more fun, back in 1993 they gave past calling for stake presidents and their counselors. From this we learn that Brother Cabral had also at that point served as a high councilor. I do understand why they do not list all the past callings for new temple presidents, it could be very long (especially for men like President Cabral who has 3 current callings). President Cabral succeeded President Parrella less than a year later. They split the Florianopolis Brazil stake to form the Sao Jose Brazil Stake at that point.
With the Chadambukas who are called to lead the Harare Zimbabwe Temple is that they are currently temple workers. Mutate where they live is about a 13 hour driver from the Johannesburg Temple. Brother Chadambuka is currently also a counselor in the bishopric (you could not be that and a temple worker until about 6 or so years ago) and Sister Chadambuka is the primary president. Of course Brother Chadambuka is also a former area seventy, and they were the mission leaders of the Botswana/Namibia Mission (they might have been the first Zimbabweans to lead a mission outside Zimbabwe, Elder Dube now in the presidency of the 70 was the first Zimbabwean to be a mission president I believe). Brother Chadambuka was also district president (Mutare has not had a stake super long, they are from an area quite a bit east of Harare), and a branch president. They have actually elided some of Brother Chadambuka's past callings. When he was called to be mission president he was on a district counselor, which is vaguely like being on a high council, except that district councils do not have some high council functions. Mutare did not yet in 2016 have a stake. He was also a mission president's counselor and an elder's quorum president which got left out more recently. More on President Chadambuka.
Here is president Chadambuka telling of how he came to be a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as a teenager starting in 1989. https://africasouth.churchofjesuschrist.org/faith-a-principle-of-action-and-power
Interesting stuff, thanks for confirming. I'd love for more church infrastructure in Detroit but it's probably not very feasible within the city limits at the moment.
Recently, the Argentine Port City of Bahia Blanca, where the Church is finishing construction of the 5th in country Temple, has had a major flood and several citizens lost their lives in the flooding.
Here is a Newsroom article about the Humanitarian Aid and Assistance the Church has sent. Including beds, etc.
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/the-church-of-jesus-christ-provides-humanitarian-aid-after-storm-strikes-argentina
Something I found today while updating my map is on the meetinghouse locator, when you are looking at a specific ward or an entire stake, it will now display the dates of stake conference. Very handy when going on vacation instead of the roulette of "will this chapel have Church or is it stake conference?"
That is soooo useful. It looks like the Rogers Arkansas Stake is having a special stake conference on Mar. 23rd. Potential stake split?
My branch they always broadcast stake conference to outer building and we start the same time as stake conference. So except general conference days there is always a meeting stating at 10 on Sunday. For a bit only 1 of 6 buildings did not have meetings on stake conference Sunday. I think it is now 2 of 6 ( we lost one of those buildings). Still it is useful to know when stake conference is.
This week we have mission presidents called from besides the US, Ghana, Peru, Mexico and the Philippines. The couple from Ghana will lead the mission in Rwanda. He is a former area seventy. The one from Peru will lead a mission in Southern Mexico. The other two will lead missions in their uome country, though far from where they live. The Mexican couple is going from Beakrican, which probably has the three closest stake centers of any 3 stake centers in Mexico, and is a little west of Puebla, which is east of Mexico City, to Hermosillo, which is just south of Arizona. I think the Filipino couple is going from the greater Manila region in the north of the country to Davao Mission in the south, where the new temple has a temple president called so along with Harare, Burley and Farmington Temples will probably be dedicated this year. Also Lindon as well.
Elder and Sister Chistofferson, the Ringwoods (Sister Ringwood is one of President Nelson's daughters), the Kyungus (Elder Kyungu is Africa-West Area president, both his counselors are from that area, but he is from DR Congo) and I think the Pembas, Elder Pemba is an area seventy from Sierra Leone, had a meeting with the president and first lady of Sierra Leone. Among other things Elder Christofferson invi r Ed the president and first Lady to the Freetown Temple open house.
Elder Christofferson also visited Ikot Ekpene in Nigeria, Accra Ghana and Abijan, Ivory Coast on this trip. In a total of 4 meetings he met with missionaries from 11 missions. Ikot Ekpene is the stake conference Elder Christofferson was at. Bishop Waddell was also involved in meetings in Ghana but was not there in Sierra Leone.
This is also the same trip where Elder Christofferson met with the king of the Ga people. The Church news ran an article about that about a week ago and the article on the rest of the trip today.
It would not surprise me. Right now I think the three stakes in NW Arkansas could be six.
I can't explain why the Rogers stake has 2 stake conferences barely a month apart, but it's my understanding that they were waiting to split the stakes until they got more buildings. I believe someone said a new stake center in the Bentonville stake (Centerton) was going to be open later this year.
Heard that there will be a new stake organized in Provo this weekend. In the Edgemont area.
Someone should update the Wikipedia article on the Morehouse College Gleeclub to mention that it along with the Spellman College Gleeclub performed at a concert in the State Farm Arena in Atlanta on Sep. 11, 2024 with the Tabernacle Choir at Temple Swmquare. These same groups also performed at Morehouse College on Sep. 9, 2024 in a concert partly in commemoration of President Nelson's 100th birthday. The Glee Clubs leader was one of the people who spoke by being video's in at President Nelson's 100th birthday party.
The public concert with over 16,000 in stadium watchers for the Glee Club clearly merits mention. Maybe also it's appearance on music and the spoken word in October 2023.
Haven't been any rumblings on it splitting next weekend, most expect it later this year or next.
My best educated guess is the new Ebimpe Cote d'Ivoire Stake will be taking units from both, the Agboville Cote d'Ivoire District (2074435), which includes the Ebimpe Branch. That has a Stake Conference listed on the Meetinghouse website for today and tomorrow Mars 15-Mars 16 2025.
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/2074435
And the neighboring Abobo Cote d'Ivoire West Stake (367850), that has 2 Stake Conferences only 45 days apart. I'm guessing the 1st one this weekend is the "Special" Conference for the Reorganization of units to the new Stake and 45 days from now on April 26-Apr 27 would be the "regular" Stake Conference. And then in September this year the Semi annual Stake Conference.
Mars 15, 2025 - Mars 16, 2025
Avr 26, 2025 - Avr 27, 2025
Sept 6, 2025 - Sept 7, 2025
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/367850
i lived in Clearfield til recently they go to ogden but will be switched to Syracuse
Wow, I just went over the "Anonymous" debate above. Confusing enough, and likely not too helpful. However, people speculating, imagining, assessing, guessing: to me, it is all welcomed here. There is room for thoughts and freedom of the mind! Even debating and "arguing" over things is okay, to a point. Not aggressive sniping, but arguments and discussion in the sense of pushing our understandings and perspectives.
Just saying, my two cents. (Not produced by U.S. at present, but maybe next year?). The only coin "of color", a joke I heard. Maybe not funny to some...
Anyway, great to see growth happening. Europe is steadily growing, or am I wrong? The South Pacific is a constant source of Church population growth.
Africa is blooming, except in countries where there is really no presence. That number be around 10 now? Out of 55, 45 nations with the Church is pretty good.
How more to go in Asia? I think there is positive growth in former Soviet States, even some of the Muslim predominant ones.
India has been tough of late, and China is always a mystery.
God bless you and all of us, enjoy the Sabbath and missionary work for the Lord and his community.
I am surprised at every mention of Flagstaff and Prescott because of how incredibly scarce the land is up there. Much of northern AZ is either government owned land or tribal so there aren't hardly any developable plots that make sense for temple building there. The temple economics for Snowflake AZ were totally different and made sense for a temple because it was historically settled by the pioneers in that area and there was a good amount of land. Not only that but Flagstaff prides itself in not developing anything because they want to keep their designation as a Dark Sky community. Most of the development is taking place in Cottonwood or Williams, but I would highly doubt any temple being built out there.
I've thought Hyrum, UT or somewhere else in southern Cache Valley was quite likely for some time now.
There will be a 5 Stake Conference in Oklahoma City on March 30th. Two new Stakes will be created at that time.
Here is the facebook update from the Mission on the creation today of the new "Ebimpe Cote d'ivoire Stake from the Agboville District at the Anonkuoa Stakecenter meetinghouse.
https://www.facebook.com/people/C%25C3%25B4te-dIvoire-Abidjan-North-Mission/61550679571131/
Which my guess from these dates are the following : Edmond, Norman, OKC, OKC South and Stillwater Oklahoma Stakes in the Oklahoma Oklahoma City Mission.
In addition, the Oklahoma City South Stake will have 3 Stake Conferences this year 2025. The first below on, March 29-30. The second a month later on May 3-4, 2025, and the 3rd on Sep 20-21, 2025, according to the Meetinghouse links below. I wonder if it will have another consolidation on that 2nd date on May 3-4, 2025.
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/2118580 (10 Wards)
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/505854 (11 Wards + 2 Branches)
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/503355 (7 Wards + 3 Branches)
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/515914 (5 Wards + 1 Branch)
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/514640 (8 Wards + 1 Branch)
Matt: Is Grace, ID still on any potential watch lists?
I'm not Matt, but he does have it on his list as a less likely location; so it's at least in his top 192. It does not make any of my lists which means it's not in my top 130. He states there's three stakes that would be in the temple district, but I only see two. With it a 45 minute drive to Montpelier and two stakes. US 30 tends to be open throughout the year. I don't see the justification compared to other areas of the world.
However, it doesn't mean it won't be announced. Every conference there are outliers that are not on my list and nearly impossible to predict, such as Huntsville Alabama in the last conference and Yuma Arizona the conference before.
In my predictions, I noted that Flagstaff is more than two hours from its temple. There is two stakes in Flagstaff and at least eight stakes in its prospective temple district. This is more than any other in the US. However, I would not rule out that it would be announced in Cottonwood or Prescott instead; just that Flagstaff is more centrally located.
When it comes to land availability, zoning requirements, dark sky, etc. While it may be a discouragement or stumbling block, I don't see it as a roadblock. If what you're saying is correct church would have to make concessions to build it. However, I would say it's far less concessions than what it stated during Shanghai's announcement.
Potential Temple District:
Cottonwood Arizona Stake
Flagstaff Arizona East Stake
Flagstaff Arizona West Stake
Page Arizona Stake
Prescott Arizona Stake
Prescott Valley Arizona Stake
Tuba City Arizona Stake
Winslow Arizona Stake
I wonder if the new Dar es Salaam Tanzania Stake (481475), will be reorganized in August with the neighboring Districts.
It has 2 Stake Conferences scheduled only one weekend apart 08/16-08/17/2025, and 08/23-08/24/2025 this year. According to the Meetinghouse site.
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/481475
The groundbreaking for the Antananarivo Madagascar Temple took place as scheduled on Saturday, per the following report, which was our only major temple construction announcement this week:
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/ground-broken-for-antananarivo-madagascar-temple
My thanks once again to you all.
As noted above, earlier today, the Temples site has added the NEW Provo Utah Edgemont East Stake to the Temple District from yesterday. Other than that, unknown details about the new Stake's Wards or Branches, as of this posting.
https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/units/
Yeah! We are one step closer to a 3rd Provo Temple. I still think Spanish Fork and Springville will come first, but we shall see, at some point.
Elder Silva at the Madagascar groundbreaking gave the prayer in Malagasy. The mission president over the part of Madagascar where the temple is bring built is from Hawaii and at least partially of Polynesian descent. Malagasy is of the sane language family as Hawaiian, Tongan, etc. Although I do not know if the mission president knows any of those languages. Hawaiian has not been used much as a spoken language by people born after about 1900.
On of the dealers at the groundbreaking was a woman in Madagascar who has been a member since 1990. The first missionaries cane in 1992.
One interesting thing is Elder Silva mentioned 35 years ago a temple in Madagascar was only a dream. That is an understatement. It was not a dream like a temple in Dar es Salaam or Lipongwe is a dream. Not even how one in Dakar is a dream.
35 years ago a temple in Madagascar was a dream like a temple in Tibet, or Pyongyang, or Khartoum. Temples in Myanmar and Sri Lanka require less dreaming today than one in Madagascar required in 1990.
Provo Utah Edgemont East Stake (2292599) - Created 16 March 2025
- Edgemont 4th Ward (9903)
- Edgemont 6th Ward (74780)
- Edgemont 9th Ward (90611)
- Edgemont 10th Ward (99880)
- Edgemont 11th Ward (107050)
- Edgemont 14th Ward (125385)
- Quail Ridge Branch (Care Center) (2054477)
Currently for 2025,
0 dedications occurred Q1 2025
4 dedications currently scheduled in Q2 2025 (Auckland New Zealand, Nairobi Kenya, Abidjan Ivory Coast, Syracuse Utah)
How many total dedications do you expect in 2025?
According to churchofjesuschristtemples.org:
Major construction completed: 4 Temples (Antofagasta Chile, Grand Junction Colorado, Farmington New Mexico, Bahía Blanca Argentina)
Major construction nearing completion: 3 Temples (Harare Zimbabwe, Burley Idaho, Elko Nevada, Alabang Philippines)
Others estimated completion in mid-2025: 4 Temples (Lindon Utah, Davao Philippines, Phnom Penh Cambodia, Ephraim Utah)
Mid to late 2025 completion: 1 Temple (Montpelier Idaho)
Late 2025 completion: 3 temples (Bacolod Philippines, Willamette Valley Oregon, Yorba Linda California)
Late 2025 to early 2026 completion: 2 temples (Pago Pago American Samoa, Neiafu Tonga)
Note it also states: the open house and dedication generally take place several months after completion
Based on above, I would guess it be 8-15 temples dedicated in 2025. To give a number, I would say 11.
David, unless I am misunderstanding what you mean, some of your analysis is not correct. The Auckland New Zealand dedication was announced in October of last year and will not take place until April. The Nairobi Kenya Temple dedication was announced in January and will occur in May. The Abidjan Ivory Coast Temple dedication was announced in November of last year and will also occur in May of this year. And the Syracuse Utah Temple dedication was announced in January and will not occur until June.
It is true that major construction has been completed for the 4 temples you mentioned above, so that part of your analysis is correct, but only Burley, Elko, and Alabang have the designation of "Major construction nearing completion", which does not apply to the Harare Zimbabwe Temple at all.
Similarly, only Lindon, Davao, and Phnom Penh have a completion estimate of mid-2025, with Ephriam and Montpelier at mid-to-late 2025. You are correct about the 3 temples estimated to be completed in late 2025. Based on my latest dedication window estimates, I now anticipate the Phnom Penh Cambodia Temple as the last to be dedicated, which would bring the total dedications in 2025 to a minimum of 15. Please let me know if I have misinterpreted your analysis above. If I have, my sincere apologies.
Chris D. You are correct. I was passing through Edmond and stopped for Sacrament. Those are the 5 stakes that will participate in the conference.
There are likely 2-3 more stakes coming in the Huntsville Temple district in the near future: one in NW Alabama (Florence/Russellville) and one in Madison/Huntsville metro area. A fourth Huntsville/Madison area stake (2nd additional) will likely be created within a year of the temple dedication, based on estimated growth trends both within the Church and general population trends. The NWAL stake is under process for approval, as is a new Huntsville metro area stake. And the temple site has a new stake center being built on the land. A additional stake center is likely to be built in Athens. This would create 5 stakes for the Huntsville temple (Huntsville, Madison, Florence, Huntsville/Madison 2, Athens). There is also a small possibility that the Tupelo stake would join the Huntsville temple district (and a new Huntsville mission) because multiple northern units in the stake are closer to Huntsville than Birmingham, and many southern units are equidistant or closer to Huntsville than Memphis.
The new Provo Utah Edgemont East Stake has been added to the Meetinghouse site today.
https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/2292599
James,
For Harare Zimbabwe, I had matched it with other temples slated for early-mid 2025 which they were listed as nearing completion even though it didn't state that. So, that number should be 4 and an error on my part.
Based on what you're stating, wouldn't it be a maximum of 15 or 16 if you count Montpelier rather than a minimum?
While my 11 prediction was based off of a miscount of what I listed as nearing completion, I'll still keep that prediction even though I would have probably stated 12. However the realistic range is now 8-16 temples dedicated in 2025 with numbers towards the middle of that range (ie. 11-12) being more likely than numbers on the edge of that range (ie. 8 or 16), and we'll have a very good idea 6 months from now how many that will be.
Definitely. I've been predicting a Hyrum Utah Temple for a few years now.
Other Matt here.
Exciting news... on March 9, 2025 Kiryu Japan Stake organized a Portuguese speaking branch (Oizumi Branch). Oizumi in recent years has a large Brazilian population with Japanese ancestry returning to work in Japanese factories.
David, no. I meant a minimum because I have been surprised with the announced timing of all four of the latest announced dedications were ahead of my projected dates by several weeks or months, and I'm hoping that happens with all other deductions set this year. While I'm projecting Montpelier as the last dedication this year, I am hoping at least a couple others will be added to that count. Hope that explains what I described above more fully.
I don't care to try and figure out my gmail password. My name is Bryan Hansen. A long time ago, I had 3 lists: most likely, next up and will be ready when those are dedicated. I have seen more than one prophet announce a temple off each list. So currently I have a list of almost 30 I consider the most likely. Since most of us are not privy to info the General Authorities have, some are announce each time. Sometimes a few and sometimes around half my list. You can take whichever ones you feel make the grade. So here I go, in geographical order because it is easiest for me to remember them. 1) Prince George, Canada. 2) Redding, Cal. 3) Palm Desert, Cal. 4) Rigby ID. 5) Tremonton, UT. 6) North Ogden, UT. 7) West Valley, UT. 8) Cottonwood, UT. 9) Washington, UT. 10) Flagstaff, AZ. 11) Apache Junction, AZ. 12) Shreveport, LA. 13) Charleston WV. 14) Cabo San Lucas, MX. 15) Aguas Calientes, MX. 16) Kingston Jamaica 17) Barcelona, VZ. 18) Tacuarembo, UR. 19) Trewlew or Neugen, Ag. 20) Reykjavik IS. 21 Cardiff WA. 22) Vilnius, Lithuania. 23) berlin or Munich Ger. 24) Tibilisi 25) Hyderabad. 26) Hobart, Tasmania. 27) Marshall Is. 28) Solomon IS.
I also think a Hyrum Temple makes sense based on how they are spacing out temples in Utah and how busy Logan can get. Even with Smithfield, Logan will remain busy. Hyrum would help that.
That is a good list with lots that I also can see, though there are three I wouldn't hold my breath on (could very well be wrong): I initially had reservations for West Valley City, though looking at the map, a temple along Highway 85 could rake in 12-13 stakes, however, I think the temple would more likely be named Hunter, since 5 of the stakes there are named Salt Lake Hunter. Tblisi, I would honestly be surprised if it got a temple announced before Yerevan. That might be a hard one to staff, with only 2 branches in the country versus 7 branches in Armenia. A temple in Yerevan could also serve the Europe Central Area District, plus Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt. It could also be an alternate for Russia, but last I heard, Yerevan's starting to distance itself from Moscow and closer to Europe, especially after Moscow refused to aid when Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabak) fell and absorbed by Azerbaijan. The last one is Hyderabad, given the current situation of the Bengaluru India Temple. It makes one wonder if they ran out of money for construction due to the country's finance laws, how are they going to keep that temple running?
Ok. I guess we'll see. Hopefully I'm wrong.
I just discovered a book I did not know existed. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints just released a new statement on race and the Church. This is connected with the gospel topics essay. It links to the essay on race and the priesthood from 2013 but is slightly different.
One key thing is it quotes Peter M. Johnson on race and unity. Then it has a quote from Tracey Y. Browning. Sister Broening is a US born Afro-Jamaican woman who currently is second counselor in the primary General Presidency. The quote is from the book "Stay Thou Nearby:Reflections on the 1978 Revelation on the Priesthood".
This book has 4 writers. Tracey Browning, Ahmad Corbitt, an African-American general authority who was baptized in August 1980, Edward Dube, the first black member of the Presidency of the 70 who is from Zimbabwe, and Carol Lawrence-Costley. Sister Lawrence-Costley is an African-American member of the general young eoman's advisory counsel. Of the 4 she is the only one who was a member before 1978 (Sister Browning was not even 2 when the June 1978 revelation was released, she was born in 1976, but after June so would not be 2, she was baptized at 16 but that was 1994), so Sister Lawrence-Costley has an insight others do not have.
My initial reaction before I understood that was to wonder why she was included. My eventual takeaway was maybe I do not value the roles and insights of general advisory council members enough. Maybe some day they will even be included in the leadership pictures in the Liahona. The general officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are a recent addition there.
I just ordered the book, do I may post more reaction after I get it.
This reported yesterday on the Newsroom website. Elder Soares recently spoke at a Stake Center in Brisbane. Australia and was transmitted to 5 other conferences. I wonder if he had a chance to look at possible sites for the Brisbane South Temple.
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/elder-soares-encourages-australian-saints-reinforce-spiritual-foundations
David, James, according to my personal knowledge of the completion process (I live in Grand Junction), and the normal time between when the dedication announcement is made and when that actually happens (average of 5-6 months), I'd estimate 8 more dedications for the remainder of 2025. Our temple was basically finished-minus the niggley punch list things-in December. We've been waiting for an announcement with bated breath for 3 months. If they announced it tomorrow it would likely happen in August or September. This is taking into account that the GAs all take the month of July off, so no open house/dedications would be planned for that month.
I truly wish the process moved along more quickly, and would be thrilled if more of the temples in the queue were quickly slated for dedication dates. As David says, 'I guess we'll see...'
Found the likely site for the Yuma Arizona temple. The Church bought a 7 acre parcel at the southwest corner of 36th St and Ave 8 E in October 2024. It’s near the Cielo Verde neighborhood.
Also found the likely site for the Coeur d’Alene Idaho temple. The Church purchased 11 acres in December 2023 on the south side of Poleline Ave near but not quite at the intersection of Huetter Rd at the west edge of Coeur d’Alene. There’s a planned school to the east of the parcel.
I’m on a roll today. Also found what I suspect is the Price Utah site. There’s a bluff on the west side of town north of the fairgrounds where the Church owns a lot of property, about 25 acres in all. It would be a scenic location and the amount of acres seems right.
It's been suggested that this may be a possible site among others, for Brisbane South.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/27%C2%B039'02.6%22S+152%C2%B053'15.9%22E/@-27.6503535,152.8879148,1030m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d-27.6507222!4d152.88775?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMxOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
My top five temples for Mexico (my area) and their likelihood from 1 to 10 (1: Not likely at all, 10: Very likely to be announced next conference:
Poza Rica: Two stakes in the city center, one more nearby, another four stakes at manageable distances. 7.
Saltillo: Three stakes locally, could take in a few stakes from the west and north side of Monterrey, would also grab Monclova, Piedras Negras, and Acuña districts. 5 by itself, 2 if Monterrey North is announced.
Monterrey North: A dozen stakes in Monterrey proper, could also grab Saltillo, Monclova, Nuevo Laredo, Piedras Negras, and Acuña plus maybe 5 or six stakes in MTY proper, the rest going to the temple in Santiago (southern Monterrey suburb). 5 by itself, 3 if Saltillo is announced.
Nealtican: An interesting addition, would take in the three Nealtican stakes, Atlixco, and maybe grab portions of the Tlaxcala and Ometoxtla stakes for closeness. Ozumba and Amecameca on the other side of the mountains could be transferred to this district too. 4.
Morelia: Would take the 5 Michoacan stakes and maybe the Colima stake. Irapuato and Celaya perhaps as well. But this is a restive area with a LOT of security concerns, comparable to Culiacán in that regard where a temple was recently announced. 3.
My top 15 temples worldwide:
Spanish Fork UT US
Atlanta South GA US
Jackson MS US (last of the Featherstone temples)
South PHX AZ US (Tempe or Chandler)
Poza Rica MX
Fin del Mundo CL/AR (Would be built EITHER in Punta Arenas CL or Ushuaia AR)
Triple Fronte(i)ra PY/AR/BR (Would be built either in Iguaçu BR or Ciudad del Este PY)
Cuiaba BR
La Serena CL
Lome TG
Yamousoukkro CI
Bulawayo ZW
Kinshasa N'Djili CD
Bo SL
Andalucía ES
Dark horses
Nealticán MX
Monterrey North / Saltillo MX
Taichung TW
Tacna PE
Evanston WY US
Nancy, while it's true that, as stated on the Church Temples site, "the open house and dedication generally take place several months after completion", it's also true that, in announcing the open house and dedication windows for the Auckland, Nairobi, Abidjan, and Syracuse dedications, the announced open houses for each of those temples were a lot shorter than I thought they would be, which proved especially true for the Syracuse Utah Temple. In fact, just before the Syracuse dedication was announced, that temple was not one of the ones for which the Church Temples site identified as "Major construction completed". The three-week window for that open house was about a third or a half the length most Utah temple open houses have historically been.
So if a three-week open house was set for Syracuse, which is a larger temple, it's not unreasonable to suggest that an open house for comparatively smaller temples like Farmington New Mexico and Grand Junction Colorado, could potentially last only 1-2 weeks. And if that is the case, the subsequent dedications of those temples with shorter open houses are likely to be much closer to the end of the open houses than what usually happens for larger temples.
It is also more than likely that the Church will continue to have more than one temple dedication on a single Sunday. And the lengths of open houses and dedication windows have been comparatively much shorter under President Nelson's leadership than we have seen under previous Church presidents.
Rome Italy is a prime example of that. Under previous Church Presidents, temple dedications have spanned several days or even a week. The longest temple dedication window under President Nelson has been the 3 days for the Rome Italy dedication. I'm reasonably certain that, because the Salt Lake Temple is such a prominent part of the Church's pioneer history and legacy, that the rededication of that temple will span several days (or even a week).
So, yes, we'll have to wait and see how the scheduling of the next several temple dedications works out, but I for one would not be shocked if this year marks the start of a multi-year trend where the number of dedications continues to surprise us.
That being said, upon further review, unless the Church announces dedications for most or all of currently completed temples in the near term, it appears as though Syracuse may be the last temple dedicated during the first half of this year. But since the Church has a past precedent of surprising scheduling, we may see that continue for the next little while.
These are just my own thoughts on your comment above. But I have done sufficient study of the trends of Nelsonian temple dedication scheduling to be reasonably certain that we're in for several surprises in terms of how the scheduling works out this year.
I suspect the renovation of the Logan Temple will probably be announced once the Smithfield Temple is dedicated. Brigham City by itself isn't nearly large enough to take on Logan's whole district, and Ogden is a pretty substantial drive from Cache Valley. Between Smithfield, Brigham City, and those who can make the trip to Ogden, that should be enough to take over for Logan.
James Stokes, in your comment to Nancy, you mention the "Church Temple site". Written that way may give the impression that the website is the Churches temple site. However, as you probably know, that is a website by a guy named Rick Satterfield who lives in Idaho and the classifications of timelines are his own. While I do put a lot of weight in that website, it is not run or endorsed by the Church. I only mention this because in your comment to Nancy, and in a recent comment, it seems you are referring to that website as if it an authoritative source, when it in fact is not.
FYI, Rick Satterfield and I have been good friends for more than two decades now. I am well aware of the fact that the Church Temples site is not an official Church website, as that's clearly noted on the site itself. But you may not be aware that Rick has contacts all over the world, as I myself do, and that he has some access to official information from the Church about the temple statuses he shares, so between a network of worldwide sources and his direct access to some degree of knowledge about temples under construction from his contacts at Church headquarters, it is in that sense a reliable albeit nonauthoritative site.
For those like me who are familiar with the site and the webmaster in question, there is no reason to refer to the site as the Church of Jesus Christ Temples site every time when everyone knows what we are talking about if we say "the Church Temples site". As a matter of fact, it would be more confusing to say "the Church of Jesus Christ Temples site" every time because that is the name of the page on the official Church website.
Mostly everyone here who comments regularly under a blogger account is well acquainted with the site in question and my close friendship with its' webmaster. So, with all due respect, I don't appreciate being called out on that by someone who is posting anonymously and hasn't bothered to ascertain the facts of the matter before they do so. I mean no offense and I hope none is taken.
Perhaps you need to reconsider your ability to take constructive criticism, James. Nobody called you out, it was a legitimate post by someone else who was probably thinking of others who may be new to this blog and confused by the reference.
I think a lot of the regular posters here that tend to monopolize all of these conversations have inflated and exaggerated senses of self-importance boasting of their supposed insider information when the reality is they are essentially nobodies who clearly have far too much spare time on their hands with nothing better to do than to nitpick and criticize everyone else that dares to challenge them. It's really getting old.
The worth of a soul is great in the sight of God. Because of this no one is "essentially nobody".
In my last post I mentioned the book "Stay Thou Nearby:Reflections on the 1978 Revelation on the Priesthood". Two of the writers of the book, Sister Lawrence-Costley and Sister Browning both cane to be living in New Rochelle, New York in 1976. Sister Browning because she was born there and Sister Lawrence-Costley because she moved there from England when her parents decided the family should reunite. Both have parents originally from Jamaica.
Sister Lawrence-Costley had been baptized in England the year before, but had been meeting with the missionaries since 1971. She was a convert from Osmondmania, although because she resolved from day one to live things like the Word of Wisdom because the Osmonds did this should not be seen as a bad thing.
Sister Lawrence-Costley was interviewed on the Latter-day Saint living podcast and told her story. On the eve of her baptism in 1975 a missionary promised her that by the time she was old enough to be married every worthy male member of the Church would be able to be ordained to the priesthood. She turned 18 and graduated high school in 1978 so this was literally fulfilled about as precisely as possible.
She went to BYU in fall of 1978. She did not actually get married until she was nearly 40. Which she also reflects on in the podcast.
Sister Lawrence-Costley was on the young women general advisory council from 2018-2023.
Sister Broening would not join the Church until 1994, and she got married in 1998, at age 20 or so. In fact her and Sister Lawrence-Costley seem to have been married close to the sane time (it depends how much lifting nearly is doing). That they both lived in New Rochelle at the same time is interesting.
And this relates to the purpose of this blog how? I dont see any current church growth topics.
No worries, Anonymous,I was not confused or offended by James' reply to my comment. He and I both rely on Rick Satterfield 's very well done temple site. I enjoy james' thoughtful analysis. I happen to think he may be a bit too optimistic about the rate of upcoming dedications, but I kinda hope he's right; the faster the better! We're all temple obsessed hobbyists here, let's enjoy each other.
General Conference is incredibly close. I hope they move forward more quickly with the start of temple construction. It's going very slowly. We're just making announcements and creating illusions. I don't understand how there's so much bureaucracy and slowness, considering the money available for it.
It's good to have temples closer together. The biggest challenge, and not just in Chile, is having too few or too few workers. I hope the day comes when bishops and stake presidents are freed from the power to refuse to recommend worthy people at their whim and arbitrariness.
In Chile, attendance at the Santiago church remains very low. It's a small, modest church, and it has greatly improved with Holland's recommendation. I hope at this conference they announce more churches, not just for Chile but for the world. I hope they build them, so it's not just an announcement. I don't understand why they should pay church officials who profit and don't do their jobs. Our church will continue to have problems due to excessive pride, nepotism, double standards, and a lack of transparency and truthfulness.
I happily take criticism when I know from whom it's coming. But when such criticism is couched in a comment by some unknown source, it's hard to see such feedback as constructive. I have been harassed, on and off Wikipedia by sources who don't identify themselves, so I have a right to be wary of comments made by people who clearly don't want their online opinions to be tied to their names. Sorry if you find fault with me for that.
Nancy, if it helps, my assessment is based on Twitter post late last year by Elder Kevin R. Duncan, the GA Seventy currently serving as Executive Director of the Temple Department, who shared a list of temples expected to have open houses in 2025. The list identified all the temples I included in my comment above with the exception of the Phnom Penh Cambodia and Cleveland Ohio Temples, which are reportedly ahead of schedule Almost all of those temples appear to be a lock for dedications this year, especially since the Church has been known to schedule two or three temples for dedications on the same Sundays. Hope that helps.
Anonymous, I don't think that is the intent for most users to monopolize these conversations and definitely not the thought of mine, as I very much like seeing other's thoughts. Yes, we all have our opinions and I've learned from others. Feel free to express your thoughts.
Omar, I agree with your concern about the slowness of getting these temples to groundbreaking per my previous posts including in this chat.
I'm not sure elsewhere, but in my ward and stake (in Central/NE Arkansas), my leaders are happy when members want to serve as temple workers workers (Memphis Temple).
Also, local leaders don't get paid any salary. I don't keep up with it, but at least as of 20 years or so ago, most General Authorities get an apartment near temple square to more easily function in their calling. I don't see anywhere there is elaborate spending by church leaders, especially when compared to other organizations. If you look at their backgrounds, many give up a much more financially lucrative employment opportunities to serve in their religious capacities.
Rapid City, SD
Most of the delays of temples are things that result from rhe government processes that must be gone through to build buildings at this scale.
I would point out that both Guayaquil Ecador Temple and Bogota Colombia Temple were announced in 1981 and 1984 and dedicated in 1998 and 1999. Guayaquil I think takes 18 years from announcement to dedication.
Abijan Ivory Coast was announced April 5, 2015. So it will be just over 10 years.
There are over 50 temples that have had ground breaking. There are about 100 or a little more temples waiting on ground breaking, but the work is moving forward.
Utah use to consistently have the highest fertility rate among US states. In 2023 (latest available), it ranked 9th. 2.1 is the minimum needed to replenish a population in highly developed countries. If you're curious Idaho ranks at number 11. It ranked 5th in 2020 and even higher before that. Up until 2018, it was ranked as the highest fertility rate every year among all states. Also, it was 2018 when it dropped below 2.1 for the first time and continues to decline every year.
1 South Dakota 2.00
2 Nebraska 1.91
3 North Dakota 1.85
4 Alaska 1.83
5 Louisiana 1.83
6 Iowa 1.81
7 Texas 1.81
8 Kansas 1.81
9 Utah 1.80
10 Kentucky 1.80
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr74/nvsr74-1.pdf
I think that recently there's an issue that US temples are getting completed withing 3-4 years of announcement while non-US temple announcements, especially in Africa, have sat that long with sites unannounced altogether. If we wanted to overcome beurocratic burden, we would put more resources there, of course there will always be edge cases.
Also, please note Guayaquil and Bogota are outliers as to the length of their planning/construction period and were not the rule for the period (neither are Adibjan or Helena the rule for today).
I hope we will put more resources into getting temples across the world built as quickly as prudent, especially in areas where long-distance travel is dangerous or expensive.
-Hank
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-Hank
if you look most of those states have a lower cost of living alot of people are moving and then they have kids no one can afford children in Utah
David McFadden HELLO! Nice to meet you. I'm from Santiago, Chile, a diverse community, with a current temple recommend. I always share from experience and objectively. Therefore, I am consistent in my criticism, and I also share it this way in the chapel on Sundays. I know it doesn't always go down well, but even so, I prefer to be real.
Regarding calling new workers, at least in the Santiago, Chile, temple, many are needed, and the older ones have been relieved, and they continue to call new ones. Sometimes, someone goes and there aren't enough workers, and it delays the temple work. I know it's voluntary work.
I know that senior leaders receive salaries, therefore, they are church officials. Being such a wealthy church, it's hard to understand why we don't have a decent budget, custodians, etc.
We're just days away from the start of general conference. One of my most anticipated moments is listening to the choir and the temple announcements. Regarding the messages, we need more messages from women leaders, since we point out that there are no differences, and it's evident that there are.
I hope to hear more about family history, and especially what you have to say about real progress in the inclusion of all genders, colors, and races without distinction. Singles make up more than 40% of the church, and we continue to be ignored.
My stake was one of the ones who had Elder Soares' remarks broadcasted. According to my Stake President he was only there for the Sunday. After the special stake conference, Elder Soares had a training with all the Stake, Mission and Temple Presidents in Australia. It seems that was all as Elder Soares met with the Saints in Papua New Guinea on the Tuesday after.
Another reason Ibadan could be announced soon is that it appears the Lagos temple is going to be pretty small
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I see potential locations where the church already owns land in Spanish Fork; Cottonwood Heights; several in the Herriman area; Flagstaff, AZ; Longview, TX and Rigby, ID which are high on my list for that reason. Although that may not be a great indicator. Just because the church owns land does not necessarily mean it is for a Temple or that a Temple being announced there is imminent. I am sure there are other locations where the church also already owns land.
I think just because land areas are owned, the zoning, or other factors may not be right for a Temple to be announced or the site revealed yet, and that process must be worked through. I wonder if this is the case with Coeur d’Alene, Price, Queencreek, El Paso, and Milwaukee, as the church owns land in these announced areas, yet none of those sites have been revealed.
I have included my map again; it is not much more extensive than Matt’s with about 100 more locations. I hope to update the distance areas again after this conference if it is not too much for the map to handle. My original one from several years ago crashed because of the size. I like loading this on Google Earth with stake and district locations.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1F0XFGpLcQtvSGW49Z5SJIUFL6AL5N3o&usp=sharing
The church owns land in Flagstaff that could be for a Temple. The land is zoned as Highway Commercial. An existing meetinghouse is also in a Highway Commercial zone and the other three meetinghouses are zoned as residential. So, zoning may not be an issue for it as has been brought up other places and I agree is a large factor among many in a Temples’ location and process of being built.
I’ve always thought location-wise Flagstaff would serve members in the area well. Talking to some locals several years ago they expressed belief in Prescott maybe being a better option due to more membership with Cottonwood relatively close compared to Flagstaff. I can see both locations but personally lean to Flagstaff.
Again, just because the church owns land does not necessarily mean it is for a Temple or that a Temple being announced there is imminent. The church owned the land for the Oakland Temple 19 years before it was announced, though that was a different time, and the Church was in a different financial state. Another example, Colorado Springs, I had at the top of my list for years because the church owned the site there for years before it was announced.
Agree with Site master re: temples most likely...
Bulawayo, ZImbabwe
Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania
Port Harcourt, Nigeria
Lome, Togo
Yamoussoukro, Cote D'Ivoire
Bo, Sierra Leone
Santa Maria, Brazil (Rio Grando do Sul)
Caldwell or Nampa, Idaho (Canyon County, Boise Metro)
Evanston, WY
Salt Lake Cottonwood area
Bluffdale, Utah (very south Salt Lake valley)
Spanish Fork, Utah
All Phillipines temple predictions
Mine: Bloemfontein, South Africa
Delta, Utah
Pullman, WA or Moscow, ID
Yakima, WA'
Santa Maria, CA
Buckeye, AZ
Little Rock, AR
Christchurch, NZ
Canberra, ACT, Australia
I live in Prescott so a temple in either Prescott or Prescott Valley would be wonderful, however, a Flagstaff temple would better serve the western Navajo Reservation, the Hopi Reservation, and Winslow Stake. Kayenta (part of the Tuba City Stake), Montezuma Creek, and Dinnehotso unfortunately would be as close to the Monticello and Farmington temples. Page AZ Stake would be a little closer to Flagstaff than the Red Cliffs Temple in St. George and is a straight shot to Flagstaff on US Hwy 89. There is a lot of land in the Prescott Valley area, not so much open land in Prescott, however, the Church does own a land parcel in northeastern Prescott for a future meetinghouse.
Hello neighbor! I'm in Prescott Valley. We are all hoping that the church buys some of the land around the PV stake center to put a temple. A former stake president once said that while he was at the stake center he looked north and had a vision of a temple there. The land the church owns in Prescott off of Rosser would probably be big enough for a temple too but idk how the neighborhood would react since it is all residential right around there.
It's my prayer that the Acapulco México Temple and the Morelia México Temple will be announce!
Logan, I love your map. Great work. I just compared to mine. And i am adding these 20 locations form your map, that were not included in mine.
Abakaliki Nigeria Temple
Bucharest Romania Temple
Cajamarca Peru Temple
Dover Delaware Temple
Eagle Mountain Utah Temple
Fargo North Dakota Temple
Fort Myers Florida Temple
Fredericksburg / Fairfax Virginia Temple
Garden City Kansas Temple
Glendive Montana Temple
Kearney Nebraska Temple
McMinnville Tennessee Temple
North Edmonton Alberta Temple
Oklahoma City South Oklahoma Temple
Ondo / Ife Nigeria Temple
Piracicaba Brazil Temple
Port St. Lucie / Treasure Coast Florida Temple
Providence Rhode Island Temple
Reykjavík Iceland Temple
Windhoek Namibia Temple
Thanks again. I have also bookmarked it like I did with David M. And Snjesko's maps.
Thanks. I forgot several of these were on the map. I try to read all the comments and if a place mentioned makes sense to me I add it. Or if some places are mentioned enough I'll add it even if it does not make sense to me because there seems to be at least one that surprises me every conference. If there is a stake connected to a place mentioned I usually make note of it. Some of them are with districts looking at distance as the main factor. Others were added when it was asked what if each state had a Temple, or each country with a district/stake had a Temple. Credit for the Nigeria locations goes to a map Matt posted a few years back.
Did I say Rapid City, SD already?
And that all StakeCenters will become endowment houses?
And that Church worship will trend towards the temples and less on meetinghouses?
Amazing with all the drug wars there and medellin. Great that the Lord uses temples to heal the places ravaged by war.
That's too bad. A comeback can happen anywhere and anytime.
I had to post as Anonymous as I couldn't sign in on my phone. Thrilled to be right about Rapid City, South Dakota. Coupled with Winchester, Virginia, our last two home stakes have been blessed indeed! Hurrah for Zion!
Bingo!
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