Sunday, October 1, 2023

New Temples Announced in October 2023 - Part I: Asia

Due to the large number of temples announced today, I will be separating my analysis of new temple announcements into separate blog posts by world region.

Laoag Philippines Temple

The Laoag Philippines Temple will be the Church's 13th temple in the Philippines following temples in Manila (dedicated in 1984), Cebu (dedicated in 2010), Urdaneta (announced in 2010), Alabang (announced in 2017), Cagayan de Oro (announced in 2018), Davao (announced in 2018), Bacolod City (announced in 2019), Tacloban City (announced in 2021), Naga (announced in October 2022),  Santiago (announced in October 2022), Tuguegarao City (announced in April 2023), and Iloilo (announced in April 2023). The Philippines is the country with the fewest completed temples (2) with the most temples announced or under construction (11). The new temple will likely have one of the smallest temple districts in the Philippines, as there are only four stakes and two districts that appear likely to be assigned to the new temple (only the Tuguegarao Philippines Temple has a smaller prospective temple district with three stakes and two districts). Travel in the Philippines is often costly and time-consuming which has likely played a role with the announcement of temples in locations with few stakes like Laoag. The Church has operated a stake in Laoag since 1989 and created the Philippines Laoag Mission in 2004. The newest stake to be created in the Laoag area was in Vigan in 2021. There are approximately 850,000 Latter-day Saints in the Philippines organized into 126 stakes and 55 districts. 

Osaka Japan Temple

The Osaka Japan Temple will be the Church's fifth temple in Japan following the Tokyo Japan Temple (dedicated in 1980), the Fukuoka Japan Temple (dedicated in 2000), the Sapporo Japan Temple (dedicated in 2016), and the Okinawa Japan Temple (scheduled for dedication in November 2023). The new temple will probably service six stakes and two districts in southern Honshu and Shikoku. The Osaka Japan Stake was organized in 1972 and the area is serviced by the Japan Kobe Mission. The Church has experienced two significant iterations of consolidating stakes and congregations in the Osaka area during the past 25 years. Today, there is only one stake in Osaka, whereas there used to be four stakes in Osaka in the 1990s. I have considered Osaka as a more likely location for a temple announcement due to distance to Tokyo and several stakes in the Osaka-Kyoto-Kobe metropolitan area. The Church in Japan has experienced essentially stagnant membership growth in recent years, and there are currently approximately 130,000 Latter-day Saints in Japan. 

Ulaanbaatar Mongolia Temple

Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia has been on my short list of likely locations to have a temple announced for many years. The new temple will be the Church's first temple in Mongolia. Prior to today's announcement, Mongolia ranked as the country with the second most Latter-day Saints without a temple. There were approximately 12,500 Latter-day Saints in Mongolia as of year-end 2022. The Church in Mongolia is extremely far away from the nearest temples in Seoul, South Korea; Taipei, Taiwan; and Hong Kong, China. The new temple will be one of the most remote temples in the world once completed. The Church first established a branch in Mongolia in 1993 and experienced rapid growth during the 1990s and 2000s. There are now two stakes in Ulaanbaatar which were organized in 2009 and 2016. One district also operates in Darkhan. Slow membership growth and stagnant congregational growth have occurred during the past decade. Mongolia has one of the highest percentages of Latter-day Saints in the general population among Asian nations, as 0.37% of the Mongolian population was a Latter-day Saint as of year-end 2022 (one Latter-day Saint per 272 people). The new temple will service the two stakes and one district in Mongolia, and it may also service branches and one district in Siberia and the Russian Far East.

53 comments:

John Pack Lambert said...

The nber of temples announced or operational in Africa, 29, exceeds the number as of the day I was born for the while earth, 27.

The temples announced for Africa were very encouraging. Even if I was very sad that Kampala was not announced.

Kampala moves back to the top of my list, with Bo and also Yamosoukro and either Lome/Cotonou also getting on it.

Cape Coast is the oldest stake outside of South Africa without an announced temple.

Mbuji-Mayi I was so glad at. I may have put it on a list, but I did not expect it so soon.

Ulaambatoor I had only been convinced was likely when an apostle spoke of it soon.

Osaka I still am not familiar enough with the geography of Japan to say much on.

Laoag I have seen as a possibility. I am still thinking Angeles we will see soon.

The Philippines are at 2 operational and 13 total temples. This is more announced temples than Mexico had when President Hinckley died.

Chris D. said...

Matt, I agree with you for these 3 locations, except from my map I had included 7 possible stakes for the Osaka Temple. You may not agree or had considered the Okayama Japan Stake from the Fukuoka Temple District.

Here was my progression from current district to the new locations for each.

MANILA PHILIPPINES URDANETA PHILIPPINES *** / TUGUEGARAO PHILIPPINES / SANTIAGO PHILIPPINES *** / LAOAG PHILIPPINES *** Candon Philippines
MANILA PHILIPPINES URDANETA PHILIPPINES *** / TUGUEGARAO PHILIPPINES / SANTIAGO PHILIPPINES *** / LAOAG PHILIPPINES *** Batac Philippines
MANILA PHILIPPINES URDANETA PHILIPPINES *** / TUGUEGARAO PHILIPPINES / SANTIAGO PHILIPPINES *** / LAOAG PHILIPPINES *** Laoag Philippines
MANILA PHILIPPINES URDANETA PHILIPPINES *** / TUGUEGARAO PHILIPPINES / SANTIAGO PHILIPPINES *** / LAOAG PHILIPPINES *** Vigan Philippines

MANILA PHILIPPINES URDANETA PHILIPPINES *** / TUGUEGARAO PHILIPPINES / SANTIAGO PHILIPPINES *** / LAOAG PHILIPPINES *** Bangued Philippines
MANILA PHILIPPINES URDANETA PHILIPPINES *** / TUGUEGARAO PHILIPPINES / SANTIAGO PHILIPPINES *** / LAOAG PHILIPPINES *** Bangui Philippines


FUKUOKA JAPAN OSAKA JAPAN *** Okayama Japan
TOKYO JAPAN OSAKA JAPAN *** Kobe Japan
TOKYO JAPAN OSAKA JAPAN *** Kyoto Japan
TOKYO JAPAN OSAKA JAPAN *** Osaka Japan
TOKYO JAPAN OSAKA JAPAN *** Kanazawa Japan
TOKYO JAPAN OSAKA JAPAN *** Nagoya Japan
TOKYO JAPAN OSAKA JAPAN *** Nagoya Japan East

FUKUOKA JAPAN OSAKA JAPAN *** Matsuyama Japan
FUKUOKA JAPAN OSAKA JAPAN *** Takamatsu Japan


HONG KONG CHINA ULAANBAATAR MONGOLIA *** Ulaanbaatar Mongolia East
HONG KONG CHINA ULAANBAATAR MONGOLIA *** Ulaanbaatar Mongolia West

HONG KONG CHINA ULAANBAATAR MONGOLIA *** Darkhan Mongolia
KYIV UKRAINE RUSSIA *** / ULAANBAATAR MONGOLIA *** Novosibirsk Russia

Chris D. said...

And here are my thoughts on progression for the 3 African continent locations announced. Mbuji-Mayi DRC, Calabar Nigeria, and Cape Coast Ghana. from current to final Temple assigned.

KINSHASA DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO LUBUMBASHI DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO *** / KANANGA D.R.C. *** / MBUJI-MAYI D.R.C. *** Dibindi Democratic Republic of the Congo
KINSHASA DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO LUBUMBASHI DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO *** / KANANGA D.R.C. *** / MBUJI-MAYI D.R.C. *** Kabusanga Democratic Republic of the Congo
KINSHASA DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO LUBUMBASHI DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO *** / KANANGA D.R.C. *** / MBUJI-MAYI D.R.C. *** Luputa Democratic Republic of the Congo
KINSHASA DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO LUBUMBASHI DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO *** / KANANGA D.R.C. *** / MBUJI-MAYI D.R.C. *** Mbuji-Mayi Democratic Republic of the Congo
KINSHASA DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO LUBUMBASHI DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO *** / KANANGA D.R.C. *** / MBUJI-MAYI D.R.C. *** Mwene-Ditu Democratic Republic of the Congo
KINSHASA DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO LUBUMBASHI DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO *** / KANANGA D.R.C. *** / MBUJI-MAYI D.R.C. *** Ngandajika Democratic Republic of the Congo


ACCRA GHANA CAPE COAST GHANA *** Abura Ghana
ACCRA GHANA CAPE COAST GHANA *** Assin Foso Ghana
ACCRA GHANA CAPE COAST GHANA *** Assin Foso Ghana South
ACCRA GHANA CAPE COAST GHANA *** Cape Coast Ghana
ACCRA GHANA CAPE COAST GHANA *** Mpintsin Ghana
ACCRA GHANA CAPE COAST GHANA *** Takoradi Ghana
ACCRA GHANA CAPE COAST GHANA *** Yamoransa Ghana

ACCRA GHANA KUMASI GHANA *** / CAPE COAST GHANA *** Axim Ghana
ACCRA GHANA CAPE COAST GHANA *** Tarkwa Ghana
ACCRA GHANA CAPE COAST GHANA *** Twifu Praso Ghana


ABA NIGERIA EKET NIGERIA *** / CALABAR NIGERIA *** Akamkpa Nigeria
ABA NIGERIA EKET NIGERIA *** / CALABAR NIGERIA *** Calabar Nigeria
ABA NIGERIA EKET NIGERIA *** / CALABAR NIGERIA *** Calabar Nigeria North
ABA NIGERIA EKET NIGERIA *** / CALABAR NIGERIA *** Calabar Nigeria South

ABA NIGERIA CALABAR NIGERIA *** Ugep Nigeria

Chris D. said...

And my thoughts for the 2 new Brazil Locations, Goiania Brazil, and Joao Pessoa Brazil.

BRASILIA BRAZIL GOIANIA BRAZIL *** Anápolis Brazil
BRASILIA BRAZIL GOIANIA BRAZIL *** Goiânia Brazil
BRASILIA BRAZIL GOIANIA BRAZIL *** Goiânia Brazil North
BRASILIA BRAZIL GOIANIA BRAZIL *** Goiânia Brazil South
BRASILIA BRAZIL GOIANIA BRAZIL *** Rio Verde Brazil
CAMPINAS BRAZIL GOIANIA BRAZIL *** Cuiabá Brazil
CAMPINAS BRAZIL GOIANIA BRAZIL *** Cuiabá Brazil Industriário


RECIFE BRAZIL JOÃO PESSOA BRAZIL *** Campina Grande Brazil
RECIFE BRAZIL JOÃO PESSOA BRAZIL *** Campina Grande Brazil Liberdade
RECIFE BRAZIL JOÃO PESSOA BRAZIL *** João Pessoa Brazil
RECIFE BRAZIL JOÃO PESSOA BRAZIL *** João Pessoa Brazil Centro
RECIFE BRAZIL JOÃO PESSOA BRAZIL *** João Pessoa Brazil Rangel
RECIFE BRAZIL JOÃO PESSOA BRAZIL *** João Pessoa Brazil Torre
RECIFE BRAZIL JOÃO PESSOA BRAZIL *** Santa Rita Brazil

FORTALEZA BRAZIL NATAL BRAZIL *** / JOÃO PESSOA BRAZIL *** Sousa Brazil
RECIFE BRAZIL JOÃO PESSOA BRAZIL *** Mamanguape Brazil

Chris D. said...

And the Cancun Mexico Temple in the Mexico Area, from the Merida Mexico Temple.

MÉRIDA MEXICO CANCUN MEXICO *** Cancún México
MÉRIDA MEXICO CANCUN MEXICO *** Cancún México Haciendas
MÉRIDA MEXICO CANCUN MEXICO *** Cancún México Kabáh
MÉRIDA MEXICO CANCUN MEXICO *** Chetumal México
MÉRIDA MEXICO CANCUN MEXICO *** Playa del Carmen
MÉRIDA MEXICO CANCUN MEXICO *** Tizimín México

Chris D. said...

And here is my list from Matt's most recent map of Probable sites, for Colorado Springs Colorado and Roanoke Virginia from N.A. Central and Northeast Areas. I just changed the Pikes Peak name to Colorado Springs on my map.

DENVER COLORADO COLORADO SPRINGS COLORADO *** Colorado Springs Colorado
DENVER COLORADO COLORADO SPRINGS COLORADO *** Colorado Springs East
DENVER COLORADO COLORADO SPRINGS COLORADO *** Colorado Springs High Plains
DENVER COLORADO COLORADO SPRINGS COLORADO *** Colorado Springs North
DENVER COLORADO COLORADO SPRINGS COLORADO *** Fountain Colorado
DENVER COLORADO COLORADO SPRINGS COLORADO *** Pueblo Colorado
DENVER COLORADO COLORADO SPRINGS COLORADO *** Garden City Kansas
ALBUQUERQUE NEW MEXICO FARMINGTON NEW MEXICO *** / COLORADO SPRINGS COLORADO *** Alamosa Colorado
ALBUQUERQUE NEW MEXICO FARMINGTON NEW MEXICO *** / COLORADO SPRINGS COLORADO *** Manassa Colorado


RICHMOND VIRGINIA ROANOKE VIRGINIA *** Buena Vista Virginia
RICHMOND VIRGINIA ROANOKE VIRGINIA *** Buena Vista Virginia YSA
RICHMOND VIRGINIA ROANOKE VIRGINIA *** Pembroke Virginia
RICHMOND VIRGINIA ROANOKE VIRGINIA *** Roanoke Virginia
RICHMOND VIRGINIA ROANOKE VIRGINIA *** Waynesboro Virginia

Chris D. said...

And my thoughts for Fairbanks Alaska, Kahukui Hawaii and Vancouver Washington in the N.A. West Area. I consider 8 Stakes for Vancouver compared to Matt's 6.

ANCHORAGE ALASKA FAIRBANKS ALASKA *** Fairbanks Alaska
ANCHORAGE ALASKA FAIRBANKS ALASKA *** North Pole Alaska


KONA HAWAII KAHULUI HAWAII *** Kahului Hawaii
KONA HAWAII KAHULUI HAWAII *** Kahului Hawaii West


PORTLAND OREGON VANCOUVER WASHINGTON *** Longview Washington
PORTLAND OREGON VANCOUVER WASHINGTON *** Rainier Oregon
PORTLAND OREGON VANCOUVER WASHINGTON *** Ridgefield Washington
PORTLAND OREGON VANCOUVER WASHINGTON *** The Dalles Oregon
PORTLAND OREGON VANCOUVER WASHINGTON *** Vancouver Washington
PORTLAND OREGON VANCOUVER WASHINGTON *** Vancouver Washington East
PORTLAND OREGON VANCOUVER WASHINGTON *** Vancouver Washington North
PORTLAND OREGON VANCOUVER WASHINGTON *** Vancouver Washington West

Chris D. said...

And last my thoughts for the Pacific and South America Areas.

APIA SAMOA SAVAI'I SAMOA *** Savai'i Samoa
APIA SAMOA SAVAI'I SAMOA *** Savai'i Samoa Fagamalo
APIA SAMOA SAVAI'I SAMOA *** Savai'i Samoa Pu'apu'a
APIA SAMOA SAVAI'I SAMOA *** Savai'i Samoa Sagone
APIA SAMOA SAVAI'I SAMOA *** Savai'i Samoa South
APIA SAMOA SAVAI'I SAMOA *** Savai'i Samoa West


LIMA PERU HUANCAYO PERU *** Huancayo Perú
LIMA PERU HUANCAYO PERU *** Huancayo Perú El Valle
LIMA PERU HUANCAYO PERU *** La Merced Perú
LIMA PERU HUANCAYO PERU *** Mantaro Perú
LIMA PERU HUANCAYO PERU *** Ayacucho Perú
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** / HUANCAYO PERU *** Cerro de Pasco Perú
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** / HUANCAYO PERU *** Huánuco Perú
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** / HUANCAYO PERU *** Huánuco Perú Amarilis

LIMA PERU HUANCAYO PERU *** Tarma Perú


TRUJILLO PERU CHICLAYO PERU *** / PIURA PERU *** Piura Perú Castilla
TRUJILLO PERU CHICLAYO PERU *** / PIURA PERU *** Piura Perú Central
TRUJILLO PERU CHICLAYO PERU *** / PIURA PERU *** Piura Perú Miraflores
TRUJILLO PERU CHICLAYO PERU *** / PIURA PERU *** Sullana Perú
TRUJILLO PERU CHICLAYO PERU *** / PIURA PERU *** Tumbes Perú

TRUJILLO PERU CHICLAYO PERU *** / PIURA PERU *** Talara Perú


SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** San Antonio Chile
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** Coquimbo Chile
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** El Belloto Chile
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** La Serena Chile
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** Quillota Chile
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** Quilpué Chile
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** Valparaíso Chile
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** Valparaíso Chile West
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** Villa Alemana Chile
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** Villa Alemana Chile West
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** Viña del Mar Chile
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** /VIÑA DEL MAR CHILE *** Viña del Mar Chile Achupallas

SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** / VIÑA DEL MAR *** Illapel Chile
SANTIAGO CHILE SANTIAGO CHILE WEST *** / VIÑA DEL MAR *** Ovalle Chile

EP said...

Chris D., I like the way you've shown he progression of the temple districts above. I think I agree with your assessments.

Here's an early crack at April 2024 based on some shifting priorities:

Edinburgh/Glasgow, Scotland
Yamoussoukro, Côte d’Ivoire
Abuja, Nigeria
Kampala, Uganda
Lomé, Togo
Angeles, Philippines
Santiago, Dominican Republic
Chihuahua, Mexico
Santa Ana, El Salvador
Maracaibo, Venezuela
Pisco, Peru
Rosario, Argentina
Florianópolis/São José, Brazil
South Houston Metro (Sugar Land)
Des Moines, IA
Augusta, ME
Evanston/Lyman/Bridger Valley, WY
Flagstaff/Prescott, AZ
Coeur d’Alene/Post Falls/Hayden, ID
Price, UT
Renovation Announcement: Logan, UT (at opening of Smithfield temple)

I think we will continue to see remote locations get prioritization over the next couple conferences, which is why I now suspect Price will be the next Utah temple announced. This would also correlate with Heber Valley having been the last Utah temple announced. Coeur d'Alene is probably the major exception to that rule here, but having heard the Spokane temple is running at capacity and being a small Hinckley temple, I think a second temple in the area is the easier answer given continued growth in Post Falls and Hayden in particular.

Much like Provo being closed at Orem's dedication for reconstruction, I expect Logan to close for the final Pioneer temple renovation after Smithfield opens. I am hopeful that the Church has held off on Logan to give extra thought and consideration as to how to move forward with this renovation, and that it will result in a true restoration of Pioneer detail.

Also, to speak briefly of Peru. I am incredibly happy to see both Piura (who I thought would get a temple before Chiclayo due to distance) and Huancayo get temples. The Church is steadily covering the distant holes in Peru. I still think a third temple in Lima is likely, more towards the southern end of the metropolis, but I've started having this feeling that the time is finally coming for what I thought would be decades after I served there: a temple covering the outer zones of the Lima Peru South mission. A temple in Pisco would be ideally situated for Chincha, Pisco, and Ica stakes, along with the Cañete and Nazca districts. I would also expect the Ayacucho stake to be assigned as it does cut about a half hour off of a trip to Huancayo. Nothing would make me happier than seeing those good Saints receive a local temple.

James G. Stokes said...

Matt or anyone else, I had a question: As observed in this post, Mongolia had been the second nation in the top ten with the strongest Church presence without a temple. With one for Mongolia announced now, does anyone know which nation will be added to the top ten list now? I know the order of the top ten nations usually is first determined by membership numbers. Based on data I have, the top ten list should be Uganda, Malaysia, Marshall Islands, Jamaica, Guyana, Togo, Micronesia, Benin, Belize, and Zambia. Does that sound right?

Daniel Moretti said...

List of upcoming cities in Brazil that should receive temples at some point in the next few years (including the announcement forecast):

- Florianópolis/São José, Santa Catarina [April 2024]
- Santa Maria, Passo Fundo or Friendship Frontier (Livramento/Rivera), Rio Grande do Sul [April or October 2024]
- Cuiabá, Mato Grosso or Campo Grande, Mato Grosso do Sul [October 2024]
- Sorocaba, São Paulo [April 2025]
- Triple Border (Foz do Iguaçu/Puerto Iguazu/Ciudad del Leste), Paraná [April or October 2025]
- Rio Branco, Acre or Porto Velho, Rondônia [April 2026]
- São Luiz, Maranhão or Palmas, Tocantins [April or October 2027]
- Uberlândia, Minas Gerais [2028]
- Araçatuba or São José do Rio Preto, São Paulo [2028]
- São Paulo #3 or São José dos Campos, São Paulo [2028]
- Fortaleza #2, Ceará [2029]
- Pelotas, Rio Grande do Sul or Joinville, Santa Catarina [2030]

Craig said...

Daniel,

Craig H here with a question or two.

My extended list pretty well matches up with your list for Brazil.

However, long-term, what do you see the odds are for both Cuiabá and Campo Grande getting Temples.

Also, what do you see as the possibility of a Temple north of Rio de Janeiro as a long-term option?

Daniel Moretti said...

Craig,

I wouldn't be able to tell you much about the north of the State of Rio, I have friends there but I don't know the maturity of the people in that part of the Kingdom. Apparently the Campos Stake should reinforce the Vitória temple district, as it is equidistant between this temple and the Rio temple. The large number of State units are located around the city of Rio proper, so I can imagine in the distant future a second temple in Rio itself or in Niterói instead of a temple further north.

Mato Grosso and Mato Grosso do Sul have a history that is somewhat reminiscent of the Dakotas, both in terms of settlement and because it is a border area and agricultural expansion. Both were just one state until the 1960s. Together, they only have 7 stakes or districts, some of which are quite old. I personally believe that the announcement of the construction of the temple in one city will necessarily remove the other from the race, but given the distances and the recent announcement of Vitória under the same conditions (with only 4 units), perhaps I am quite mistaken.

I am sure that Brazil should be a preferred destination for new modular temples, which should occupy these smaller cities. The construction culture in the country, as you may know, is very dependent on masonry and reinforced concrete, using only steel rebars in cement alloys instead of complete steel reinforcement. This makes the construction process cheaper, but makes it more time-consuming. The use of new modules, dry construction and BIM planning technology will be interesting to observe.

John Pack Lambert said...

I am thinking Calabar Nigeria Temple may be the best temple to go to for most members in Cameroon as well.

Chris D. said...

J.P.L. I agree with you completely. I never really understood why the Cameroon Yaoundé Mission and as such the 2 Mission Districts (Yaoundé and Douala) were assigned to the Kinshasa D.R.C. Temple when it was dedicated a few years ago. Instead of the logistically closer Aba Nigeria Temple. Except they are both predominantly (I suppose) French speaking. So the sessions could be given in native French language for both the DRC and Cameroonian Saints. English is the 2nd official language for Cameroon since the old French and British colonies became a federation in 1961, according to Wikipedia.

For me it seemed much closer and easier for them to travel to Aba and then in the future to Eket or Calabar now, from Yaoundé or Douala.

OC Surfer said...

In the case of Mongolia (and other areas like Portugal), when the Church is new and exciting, there isn't an established church culture, so people join the church based on the ideals of the restored gospel. After the church gets established, there's a local church culture that gets established, and often that culture can appear cliquey, judgmental, off-putting to newer members, which deters church growth. Also members get complacent with the status quo and don't feel the urgency to have a growth mindset to help share the gospel with others.

I'm just wondering if those are contributing factors to stagnant growth in many areas of the Church.

Chris D. said...

And speaking of Interreligion cooperation. Here is an article about a Rwandan Catholic Cardinal who just visited Church Headquarters.

"Rwanda Catholic Cardinal visits headquarters of Church of Jesus Christ
‘You are welcome in Africa,’ Cardinal says in meeting with Elder Ronald A. Rasband

By Mary Richards 3 Oct 2023, 2:33 PM MDT"

https://www.thechurchnews.com/global/2023/10/3/23901403/rwanda-catholic-cardinal-visits-salt-lake-city-headquarters-st-george-temple

Eduardo said...

OC Surfer: All your ideas are relevant, in my opinion. The "new" factor can lead a lot of people to join the Church with emotion and excitement. This happened in Chile for decades. It can happen to individually or collectively.

In short it is the history of Christianity and humanity writ large.

We need to stick with what makes us go, which is sometimes hard to do. Or, most times. Faith in the Lord requires perspicacity and diligence. And a lot of love and forgiving.

Pascal Friedmann said...

Switzerland is an interesting case actually. The Bern temple is quite large, due to its status as the first temple built on the European mainland. For the longest time I had not really considered the possibility of a second temple in Switzerland and neither have most of the members I met there as a missionary I'm sure (Miro might like to correct me on this). But at second glance, it is not that inconceivable to have a temple in Geneva someday. There are two stakes in francophone Switzerland and my anecdotal understanding is that this part of Switzerland accounts for somewhere between 60 and 80% of the (admittedly modest) membership growth in the country these days. A temple in Geneva could also serve the Lyon and perhaps even Nice stakes in France, depending on how willing the Church is to build another temple in France eventually and where. Currently my understanding is that members from these stakes tend to attend the Swiss Temple over the one in Paris.

I would say the probability of this is not that high currently but in the climate we're in, I would also not be completely shocked.

John Pack Lambert said...

The Church has English-speaking units in Cameroon. After World War I the former German Colony of Kamerun was split between French and British administered trust Territories. They were reunited in the 1960s, but I think part of the British zone was given to Nigeria.

The extent to which people in Camerron actually speak either French or English is another story. At some point to reach every nation, kindred, tongue and people we will need to do things fully in local and not just colonial languages. That process has begun, but the logistics of it are complicated. Especially in large urban centers like Kinshasa and Lagos.

There is progress on translations to Kinyarwanda, the language of Rwanda, but Rwanda is the rare country on the African continent that closely corresponds to a pre-colonial state, and this has a fairly uniform local language. Nigeria and many other countries have literally hundreds of languages.

I did read once a blog posted by some senior missionaries who went with the first Cameroon group to go to the temple. They went to Aba. The car often got stuck in the mud. The senior missionaries themselves were not able to go into Nigeria.

Chris D. said...

I know in a previous comment it was mentioned about any updates for the future Budapest Hungary Temple. Here is a recently posted article not totally unrelated to Budapest. Some may find it encouraging that the President of Hungary recently met with the First Presidency.

"Hungary’s president meets with First Presidency, speaks at BYU

Hungarian President Katalin Novák discusses faith and family at BYU, receives a Book of Mormon at Church headquarters

By Mary Richards 4 Oct 2023, 7:00 AM MDT"


https://www.thechurchnews.com/global/2023/10/4/23902005/hungary-president-katalin-novak-first-presidency-visit-salt-lake-city-byu-speech

Religlang said...

Chris D., while this is extremely encouraging, it's important to keep in mind that the Hungarian president is mostly a ceremonial role - the vast majority of civil power is invested in the Prime Minster, currently Viktor Orbán (who doesn't strike me as particularly committed to religious freedom for non-catholics). I very much hope that this leads to a productive relationship with Hungary though.

David McFadden said...

One thing about the Mongolia temple is that it's Visa free for Russian citizens and evisa for Chinese mainland. Not saying it will be easy for any of them to get there, but a Mongolian temple does make it a possibility for these members to attend, and I think it's more a probability at the moment than a temple in Russia. Even if there's a temple in European Russia (where the 3 stakes are), it will still save on the commute for those in Asian Russia.

miro said...

The Swiss temple is propbly one of the largest temples in terms of capacity. (The London temple is the only one i think might have a larger capacity). It has 4 endoment rooms with 60 seats each (recently reduced from 68). During the week there are only few patrons exept during times when the French or the Italians have school vacation. Saturday mornings are often very busy often using 2 ordinance rooms at once. No sessions on Saturday afternoon for different reason. Not enough temple workers. Bad traffic You need often 1 hour more than expecdted. This leads to very few patrons wanting to to to the temple saturaday afternoon. Traffic is also a problam during the week, so no session in the eveining exept for friday. Every time i tried to attend the friday eveining session i missed it because of traffic. I still think a Geneva temple is unlikly but might be anounced in a few years. I think it is to close to Bern. A fromer stake president of mine very much wanted a tempple in Zurich. He even made plans and submitted them to the administration in Frankfurt. But I don't see it happen. A Possibility would be to build a temple in Geneva and Zurich and then close the Bern temple, but I think this is very unlikly.
There are still a lot of Italians comming to the Swiss temple. (Specially when there is school vacation in Italy). The main reason for that is that im told that they cannot find any room in the Rom temple hostel. Other reasons are cost and distance. I think a Milano temple is needed any likly in the forseable future.

Chris D. said...

Also some good news from a war torn country.

"Church helps open new health clinic in Ukraine
Project HOPE provides new outpatient health clinic in Kyiv region with Church support

By Mary Richards 4 Oct 2023, 10:47 AM MDT"

https://www.thechurchnews.com/global/2023/10/4/23873876/kyiv-ukraine-health-clinic-project-hope-church-funding

L. Chris Jones said...

In thinking about potential sites in the United States States(not announcements), I've noticed a pattern. I see on Google maps areal view that a lot of temples are built either on or adjacent existing church property or near a church of another denomination (adjacent, across the street, around the corner, or on the same street). This may have to do with zoning.

Chris D. said...

FYI, for any that are interested. It was just brought to my attention from a friend that the Vero Beach Florida Stake (2059363) has been renamed the "Palm Bay Florida Stake (2059363)".

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/2059363

I wonder if it was due to internal mergers or consolidations of the units or neighboring stakes?

David McFadden said...

Chris D.,
It appears it was simply renaming as I don't see any stake consolidations. Although, I'm not ruling out realignments. Vero Beach building is still the "Stake Center". Palm Bay has more units and is more central to the present stake which is probably why it's got its namesake.

My stake is the Searcy Arkansas Stake even though the stake center is in Jacksonville as Searcy acts more as the centroid for the stake (the Searcy building is two small to take on stake offices). On the contrary, the North Little Rock Stake is more centered around Conway (which has more units as well), but is still called the North Little Rock Stake. There's a number of examples of both situations as I'm assuming both ways of naming are acceptable.

Chris D. said...

It Looks like wards got shifted around stakes.

Fort Pierce Ward, Okeechobee Branch went to Stuart Florida stake.
Sebring Ward and Lake Placid Branch to Lakeland Florida Stake
Satellite Beach Ward and Melbourne Ward to the renamed Palm Bay Florida stake (former Vero Beach)

Jim Anderson said...

RUMOR: But not sure where. A real estate person (probably an office staffer) learned that in his area the Church purchased 12 acres of land adjacent to a major freeway exit. Best dlue is he said there are chapels all over nearby. And the parcel is too big to just have a meetinghouse.

Chris D. said...

Matt, Thanks for the update on Coronel Chile District (418676).

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/418676

Chris D. said...

A little history of Coronel Chile Stake.

In the 2013 Church News Almanac copy of the Deseret News, page 457, it lists the Stake number 2334 (numbered by the Church News staff), Coronel Chile Stake, organized March 23rd, 1997.

http://www.ldschurchnewsarchive.com/articles/29716/New-stake-presidencies.html (sorry this old archive link is no longer found, with the weekly New Stake Presidents Biographies posted 1997-08-03).

It was downgraded on November 17th, 2002 to become Coronel Chile District (418676).

And now almost 21 years later, according to Matt's research is planned to become a Stake again later this month October 2023.

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Breckenfeld said...

About creation of Stakes: the standard prescribed in the General Handbook is 50% higher in the USA and Canada compared to other countries. If this "surplus" were reduced to 25%, numerous Stakes could be organized in the US and Canada. After all, does it make much of a difference whether a Stake in the US has 180 or 150 tithing priesthood holders? What do you think about that ?

Breckenfeld said...

Number of active, full-tithe-paying Melchizedek Priesthood holders capable of serving in leadership positions U.S. and Canada 180 All other countries 120

Rodrigo Jofre said...

Three stakes in Chile in just one year. I think we haven't seen that in over 20 years.
I visited the Coronel district a few years ago and the people were just wonderful. I'm very glad they'll have a stake again.

Craig said...

I could be wrong, but I believe a lot of the new Stakes in Chile, outside of those in larger locations, are resulting from the strengthening of Districts to the point they can advance to become Stakes.

Craig H

John Pack Lambert said...

One would think a 12 acre site very close to a major freeqmway exotic would be a good location for a temple. One might also think there would not be opposition.

One could well be wrong about the later point. I could see people claiming such a site would be better used for land that can be directly taxed and it might be claimed other uses would generate more jobs.

In the US due to RLUIPA a city could not directly use those ideas to stop the issuing of permits.

Tomorrow Feather River California and McAllen Texas temples will be dedicated. My mom lived in Martsville, right by Yuba City, for 2 of the years she was in high school.

My soster-in-law's brother served his mission in McAllen Texas.

Chris D. said...

Now that both the McAllen Texas and Feather River California Temples have been dedicated today. Here is my thoughts on the natural progression starting a few weeks when the Bangkok Thailand Temple will be dedicated next in the Asia Area, of the Stakes and Districts that i feel would naturally go from the current assigned Hong Kong China Temple to the new Bangkok Thailand Temple District and subsecquently to Bengaluru, Phnom Penh, Singapore and Jakarta accordingly once they are completed construction.

HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** Bangkok Thailand
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** Bangkok Thailand North
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** Bangkok Thailand West
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** Ubon Thailand
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** Bengaluru India
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** Hyderabad India
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** Rajamundry India
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** New Delhi India
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** Phnom Penh Cambodia North
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** Phnom Penh Cambodia South
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** / SINGAPORE *** Singapore
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** / SINGAPORE / JAKARTA INDONESIA *** Jakarta Indonesia
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** / SINGAPORE / JAKARTA INDONESIA *** Surakarta Indonesia


HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** Chiang Mai Thailand
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** Udorn Thailand
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** Chennai India
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** Coimbatore India
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** Visakhapatnam India
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** Colombo Sri Lanka
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** Islamabad Pakistan
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** Karachi Pakistan
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / BENGALURU INDIA *** Lahore Pakistan
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** Battambang Cambodia
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** Hanoi Vietnam
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** Ho Chi Minh City Vietnam
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** Kampong Cham Cambodia
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** Phnom Penh Cambodia East
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** Siem Reap Cambodia
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** / SINGAPORE / JAKARTA INDONESIA *** Kota Kinabalu Malaysia
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** / SINGAPORE / JAKARTA INDONESIA *** Kuala Lumpur Malaysia
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** / SINGAPORE / JAKARTA INDONESIA *** Kuching Malaysia
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** / SINGAPORE / JAKARTA INDONESIA *** Miri Malaysia
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** / SINGAPORE / JAKARTA INDONESIA *** Sibu Malaysia
HONG KONG CHINA BANGKOK THAILAND *** / PHNOM PENH CAMBODIA *** / SINGAPORE / JAKARTA INDONESIA *** Surabaya Indonesia



David Tilton said...

My wife and I participated in the dedication of the McAllen Texas Temple earlier today. Elder Uchtdorf presided and offered the dedicatory prayer. He was assisted by Bishop Waddell of the Presiding Bishopric, and a couple of general authority seventies.

Elder Uchtdorf also dedicated the new stake center built on the same property. It was a beautiful service, one that has been anxiously awaited by those of us in the Lower Rio Grande Valley. It's the 183rd dedicated temple, according to Elder Uchtdorf.

We could not be happier. The temple is four miles from our home as the hummingbird flies, about a 10-minute drive. After the eight-hour roundtrip drive to and from the San Antonio Texas Temple, we will soon be spoiled.

Be well, all. Hurrah for Israel!

James G. Stokes said...

David Tilton, congratulations! The 184th temple of the Church was also dedicated today. Elder Soares is in Yuba City for the dedication of the Feather River California Temple. My hope is that these new temples will be widely used. Too often, Church members including myself at times) forget the blessings of having a temple nearby. My wife and I are trying to be more consistent in our temple attendance and I hope the same is true for people in both new temple districts. Congratulations again!

Alex said...

Chris D, interested about your predictions there, specifically regarding ultimate Singapore & Jakarta temples. I'm pretty sure that both West Malaysia districts will be put with Singapore. I've thought the East Malaysia districts on Borneo would also end up there. But I could see those going either way.

Interested in your thoughts.

Chris D. said...

Alex, correct, it is hard to say for the Malaysia districts which way it will go in the end. To Singapore or Jakarta or even a future Kuala Lumpur. That's kind of why I put either Singapore or Jakarta for those districts.

I had also for todays McAllen Texas District, according to Rick's list on his Temples website, only the 5 Stakes on the north side of the Rio Grande (USA) / Río Bravo (MEX), which fit with the description in the Church News article about today's Dedication.

https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2023/10/8/23908336/mcallen-texas-temple-dedication-bridges-borders-elder-dieter-f-uchtdorf-blessings

"...will serve members in Corpus Christi and Laredo, Texas, in addition to those in Rio Grande Valley."

I had also predicted it would include 4 Stakes and 1 District on the south side of the river. Namely, due to closeness to the McAllen Texas site compared to traveling all the way to Monterrey Mexico Temple site. Any thoughts?

MONTERREY MEXICO McALLEN TEXAS *** 513318 Matamoros México
MONTERREY MEXICO McALLEN TEXAS *** 513326 Reynosa México
MONTERREY MEXICO McALLEN TEXAS *** 412589 Reynosa México East
MONTERREY MEXICO McALLEN TEXAS *** 506958 Valle Hermoso México

MONTERREY MEXICO McALLEN TEXAS *** 612898 Tamaulipas México Río Bravo

https://maps.churchofjesuschrist.org/stakes/513326

Chris D. said...

https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/feather-river-california-temple/district/

Feather River California Temple

Temple District

The Feather River California Temple serves members from 7 stakes headquartered in Northern California:

Anderson California Stake
Chico California Stake
Gridley California Stake
Lincoln California Stake
Redding California Stake
Ukiah California Stake
Yuba City California Stake

https://www.thechurchnews.com/temples/2023/10/7/23903933/feather-river-california-temple-youth-tours-yuba-city-fires-community

"... The Feather River temple will serve seven stakes and more than 15,000 members."

Chris D. said...

While I'm on the subject, here are my thoughts on the upcoming Lima Peru Los Olivos Temple.

LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Barranca Perú
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Huacho Perú
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Begonias
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Callao
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Campoy
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Canto Grande
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Carabayllo
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Central
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Comas
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Condevilla
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú El Olivar
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú El Trébol
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Independencia
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Las Flores
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Las Palmeras
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Los Olivos
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Magnolias
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Miramar
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Naranjal
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Palao
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Prolima
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Puente Piedra
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú San Felipe
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú San Martín
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Santa Isabel
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Tahuantinsuyo
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Torre Blanca
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Lima Perú Wiesse
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** Ventanilla Perú
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** / HUANCAYO PERU *** Cerro de Pasco Perú
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** / HUANCAYO PERU *** Huánuco Perú
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** / HUANCAYO PERU *** Huánuco Perú Amarilis
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** / IQUITOS PERÚ *** Pucallpa Perú
LIMA PERU LIMA PERU LOS OLIVOS *** / IQUITOS PERÚ *** Pucallpa Perú Centenario

Chris D. said...

And the Orem Utah Temple.

MOUNT TIMPANOGOS UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah 2nd (Tongan)
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Cascade
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Cherry Hill
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Geneva Heights
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Hillcrest
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Lakeridge
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Lakeview
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Orchard
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Park
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Sharon
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Sharon Park
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Stonewood
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Suncrest
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah Sunset Heights
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah YSA 1st
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah YSA 2nd
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah YSA 3rd
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Orem Utah YSA 4th
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Vineyard Utah
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Vineyard Utah Grove Park
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Vineyard Utah Springs Park
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** Vineyard Utah Springwater
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / HEBER CITY UTAH *** Heber City Utah
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / HEBER CITY UTAH *** Heber City Utah East
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / HEBER CITY UTAH *** Heber City Utah North
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / HEBER CITY UTAH *** Heber City Utah Old Mill
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / HEBER CITY UTAH *** Midway Utah
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / HEBER CITY UTAH *** Midway Utah West
MOUNT TIMPANOGOS UTAH OREM UTAH *** / LINDON UTAH *** Lindon Utah
MOUNT TIMPANOGOS UTAH OREM UTAH *** / LINDON UTAH *** Lindon Utah Central
MOUNT TIMPANOGOS UTAH OREM UTAH *** / LINDON UTAH *** Lindon Utah West
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / LINDON UTAH *** Orem Utah Aspen
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / LINDON UTAH *** Orem Utah Canyon View
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / LINDON UTAH *** Orem Utah Heatheridge
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / LINDON UTAH *** Orem Utah North
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / LINDON UTAH *** Orem Utah Northridge
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / LINDON UTAH *** Orem Utah Timpview
PROVO UTAH OREM UTAH *** / LINDON UTAH *** Orem Utah Windsor

David McFadden said...

The 2021 Canadian Census is 85,315 - down from 105,365 in 2011. I wish it was more positive, but I thought I would like to know. The church membership hasn't seen any growth either.

James G. Stokes said...

Chris, I hate to bring up politics here, but I need to. Due to the US Congress' failure to repurpose some funding, the law requires President Joe Biden to add a significant amount of work to the wall at the US/Mexico border. He has no choice. With more of that border wall going up, the Saints in the Monterrey Mexico stakes you identified likely won't have easy access to anywhere in the United States, including McAllen. Therefore, the boundaries of that temple district are the first to be impacted by the border wall. Matt, if this comment is not appropriate here, feel free to delete it. Sorry

David McFadden said...

James, there's already a temple in Monterrey. The McAllen Temple district consists of only Texas stakes as well as four branches not part of a stake and administered by the mission. These stakes and branches are entirely in the US.
Corpus Christi Texas Stake
Harlingen Texas Stake
Laredo Texas Stake
McAllen Texas Stake
McAllen Texas West Stake
Raymondville Branch
Rio Grande City Branch
Roma Branch
Zapata Branch

James G. Stokes said...

David, I was, of course, aware of the Monterrey Mexico Temple. Chris's question was why certain stakes weren't transferred from the Monterrey district to McAllen, and the stakes he mentioned were all in Mexico. Sorry if my comment wasn't clear enough on that.

Craig said...

Does anyone have an idea on what the locations assigned to McAllen might mean in regards to a possible Temple in Matamoros or Reynosa, short-term or long-term?

Craig H

John Pack Lambert said...

Since for the putlrposes of official assignments it seems to have been decided that nothing South of the Border will be assigned to McAllen, I think the possibility of a Reynosa Temple exists.

I still think Chuhuahua City, Poza de Rica, Ciudad Obregon, and maybe say Morelia and Zacatecas are likely to come sooner.

On the other side of the border I think El Paso is likely to get a temple.

I was looking at a map, and if Mexicali could count of Imperial Valley and Yuma Stakes for support I think it would be a strong candidate for getting a temple as well.

I do have a vaguely hope Durango will get a temple, but I an not sure with Torreon getting one that is likely short term.

Craig said...

One thing in Durango's favor is that apparently Torreon is only set to be 10 000 square feet and will likely end up serving 5 States and 2 Districts in the immediate area.