tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post1834820310562401330..comments2024-03-28T12:08:46.169-06:00Comments on Growth of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church): Another Mission to be DiscontinuedMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16030323360917985701noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-30565859704937270082010-03-16T21:51:02.052-06:002010-03-16T21:51:02.052-06:00I served in Korea Taejon (now spelled Daejeon)in 9...I served in Korea Taejon (now spelled Daejeon)in 92-93. At the time there were about 200 missionaries in each of the four missions, and rumors that they were going to split off a Taegu mission. This does feel like going backwards.Helenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584075071891748174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-62216427822898776042010-02-12T16:18:48.674-07:002010-02-12T16:18:48.674-07:00Missionary redistribution to the areas of growth o...Missionary redistribution to the areas of growth or new areas is a much better system than an inflexible system of 'we must have a mission in this city or two in this city just because'. I am sure that this will bring greater growth.<br /><br />Some times on my mission with so many missionaries in the mission and very little member work, we would tract and re-tract areas time and time again without going to new towns or cities.<br /><br />I am enjoying this site, thanksADThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04582260920859757911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-1043655335531203862010-02-10T08:58:49.286-07:002010-02-10T08:58:49.286-07:00Well, clearly the U.S. is an outlier in terms of r...Well, clearly the U.S. is an outlier in terms of religiosity in terms of developed countries, although secularism is increasing here. That's why I said most developed countries.<br /><br />In terms of efficiency, these closings are obviously not going to affect LDS conversion rates generally, given that most of the missions were not particularly productive compared to missions in developing countries in Latin America, sub-Saharan Africa, and the Phillipines. It will be interesting to see how successful local efforts in Western Europe and East Asia will be in terms of growing the church's presence or at least maintaining the status quo.WestBerkeleyFlatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11445701958269444184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-6864226492854278462010-02-10T08:14:53.492-07:002010-02-10T08:14:53.492-07:00Brian,
It's worth noting that the United Stat...Brian,<br /><br />It's worth noting that the United States always accounts for 50% of church growth, having 90,000-100,000 members added annually. <br /><br />So I'd say that claim is slightly exaggerated. However I don't think its anything to do with "the internet revealing church lies" as the anti-mormons like to put it. But rather on the fact that in some developed countries, people with more money tend to have their own interests wrapped up due to personal affluence, and thus are increasingly becoming less focused on religion generally. Of course the same thing cant be said about all people.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18251390229042361699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-48099887388325911832010-02-09T22:38:02.104-07:002010-02-09T22:38:02.104-07:00Is anyone surprised that LDS proselytizing efforts...Is anyone surprised that LDS proselytizing efforts are not particularly successful in most developed countries?WestBerkeleyFlatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11445701958269444184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-61704507477633964652010-02-08T16:17:16.764-07:002010-02-08T16:17:16.764-07:00Please keep comments related to the post. Like I&...Please keep comments related to the post. Like I've said before, negative or inappropriate comments will be deleted.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16030323360917985701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-20590879964254938902010-02-08T10:46:04.899-07:002010-02-08T10:46:04.899-07:00I think the Lord wants us to talk to our neighbors...I think the Lord wants us to talk to our neighbors. The missionaries are the full time teacher, the members are the finders. I think that is what Elder Bednar tried to tell us. There will always be missionaries to teach, if we find someone they can teach. It is probably not as hard to find someone to teach as we make it. Replace faith with fear. <br />Thank you for the note about the missionary numbers, this is something we, my family, will talk about in FHE tonight. I think talking to my three sons about preperation so that they may be ready and committed to go where they could be of good use to the Lord. Not every young man can serve a mission but his willingness should be there.The Burila Bunchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05413327067503586782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-87482493442662436932010-02-08T00:45:43.522-07:002010-02-08T00:45:43.522-07:00Elder L. Tom Perry speaks of "mobolizing the ...Elder L. Tom Perry speaks of "mobolizing the ward missions" in this <a href="http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/perry/" rel="nofollow">excellent instructional video</a>. Convert baptisms and retention doubles when the principles he presents are followed. In areas where the Church is well established, I believe members and full-time missionaries working effectively together do a greater work than even if the number of full-time missionaries is doubled. Full-time missionaries are most needed in areas where the Church is young or just beginning.<br /><br />Missionary work has been <i>the</i> focus at the most recent Coordinating Council Meetings (regional meetings of Stake Presidents) that my Stake President attends.TempleRickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12085548097933120560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-7152249597785615832010-02-07T18:10:20.128-07:002010-02-07T18:10:20.128-07:00I doubt that these changes will "have a large...I doubt that these changes will "have a large impact on growth" as our anonymous friends suggests. Missionaries are being moved out of relatively unproductive areas and being moved to more productive areas. In most cases, missionaries in North America, Europe, and East Asia are underutilized--spending much time in unproductive finding activities while spending less time teaching. So spreading them a bit thinner in such areas will not be a huge problem, and there are many areas of the world that really need more missionaries. Matt has identified hundreds of cities in countries open to receiving missionaries that have never had a church presence. That is where our missionaries need to be! So yes, this is a positive, exciting, and inspired shift in mission alignments.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02296814737163889711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-23473044437825579772010-02-07T16:15:22.296-07:002010-02-07T16:15:22.296-07:00It is troubling that the number of missionaries ha...It is troubling that the number of missionaries hasn't increased over the past decade. However I would note that although as many as 16 missions may be discontinued in July, this is less than 0.5% of the Church's missions worldwide. Nearly a third of the missions serve only 5% of the world's population and as the number of missionaries hasn't really changed over the past five years the Church must redistribute missionaries and resources meet the needs of new areas opening. We will have to see in April how many missionaries are serving and whether the highest increase in children on record in almost 30 years will repeat itself for 2009.<br /><br />The problem in the United States with the decrease in the number of young men missionary age is a temporary problem that I imagine will change in the next couple years. The greatest factor in limiting growth with missionaries appears not only the large number of young men who don't serve missions but rather the large number of single members who don't get married or marry outside the Church and become less active. Many nations have really struggled to produce full member families over the years while others have seen a lot of progress towards establishing families in the Church (like Mongolia recently). The Church has focused on this issue quite a bit in Europe over the past five years with YSA outreach centers which have resulted in increases in marriages and more convert baptisms.<br /><br />The percentage of young men in the US who serve missions I don't believe has changed much since the mid-2000s. Young men serving missions definitely helps growth over the long run as it greatly improves activity for those who serve missions after they return home. However senior missionary couples seem the most successful when it comes to having large numbers of converts who tend to stay active. Perhaps we will see a greater increase in senior couple missionaries in the next few years.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16030323360917985701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-32102786543709036402010-02-07T11:41:26.606-07:002010-02-07T11:41:26.606-07:00Actually this massive drop in the number of missio...Actually this massive drop in the number of missionaries and in the number of missions (as a consequence) does scare me. Allow church leaders will work their best to make the missionary resources they have as productive as possible, there is a large scale chance this could have a knock on church growth. The only suggestion for this would be for first presidency to strengthen ward mission programs to make local congregations in certain areas sustain themselves more with door-to-door missionary activity.<br /><br />This problem seems to reflect in my ward in england now, we currently have no missionaries at all. I hope this doesn't turn out to be as serious as I imagine to be.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18251390229042361699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-62108391960856589732010-02-07T11:34:54.017-07:002010-02-07T11:34:54.017-07:00I heard today at church that the Zurich Switzerlan...I heard today at church that the Zurich Switzerland and the Hamburg Germany will be discontinued in July.<br /><br />The Zurich mission president told it.<br /><br />I am from Zurich and I think it is a bit sad, because the Zurich Mission was one of the oldest church missions.<br />The hole mission will move to the Munich Germany Mission wich will include following stakes:<br />Bern, St. Gallen, Zurich, Stutgart, Munich, Vienna, Salzburg.mirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14414491419910180189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2786908254617003646.post-14443949369908074692010-02-07T09:36:10.088-07:002010-02-07T09:36:10.088-07:00No unhallowed hand can stop the work of God!No unhallowed hand can stop the work of God!Michael Worleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12078136075924935280noreply@blogger.com